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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I got curious about Balmung's state of housing for personal so:

    LB 7-34 (small) 40 entries
    LB 7-35 (medium) not yet available
    LB 8-2 (small) 37 entries
    LB 11-42 (small) not yet available
    LB 21-7 (small) not yet available
    LB 23-36 (small) not yet available
    LB 24-24 (small) not yet available
    LB 26-24 (small) not yet available
    LB 30-15 (small) not yet available

    Mist 10-50 (small) 32 entries
    Mist 10-53 (small) not yet available
    Mist 11-8 (small) 21 entries
    Mist 11-9 (small) 20 entries
    Mist 13-57 (small) 19 entries
    Mist 14-27 (small) 19 entries
    Mist 17-3 (small) 18 entries
    Mist 17-55 (small) 18 entries
    Mist 24-50 (small) 35 entries
    Mist 24-52 (small) 21 entries
    Mist 26-38 (small) not yet available

    Gob 8-3 (small) not available yet
    Gob 10-9 (small) 19 entries
    Gob 10-31 (small) not yet available
    Gob 12-32 (small) not yet available
    Gob 12-33 (small) 22 entries
    Gob 14-27 (small) 18 entries
    Gob 15-39 (small) not currently available
    Gob 18-47 (small) not currently available
    Gob 22-9 (small) 20 entries
    Gob 28-23 (small) 16 entries
    Gob 28-37 (small) 20 entries
    Gob 29-47 (small) 29 entries
    Gob 30-32 (small) no currently available

    Shiro 7-17 (small) 38 entries
    Shiro 10-32 (small) 24 entries
    Shiro 22-6 (small) 35 entries
    Shiro 22-8 (medium) 332 entries
    Shiro 26-10 (small) 25 entries
    Shiro 26-18 (small) not yet available
    Shiro 26-32 (small) not yet available
    Shiro 27-35 (small) 26 entries
    Shiro 30-25 (small) 24 entries

    Empy 12-58 (small) 21 entries
    Empy 14-10 (small) 21 entries
    Empy 15-6 (small) 22 entries
    Empy 19-46 (small) 24 entries
    Empy 20-24 (small) not yet available
    Empy 22-24 (small) not yet available
    Empy 23-31 (small) 37 entries
    Empy 24-10 (small) not yet available
    Empy 30-25 (small) 35 entries

    Not including the sole medium available, that's a little over 750 entries. The majority of bids on the medium are likely from players trying to relocate instead of buy their first house. And if course the entry period doesn't close until tomorrow so there will likely be a number of new entries showing up tonight.

    While I didn't individually check the houses available in the FC wards, there were a fair number so I doubt many of the entries in the split wards represent FC entries.

    Make of the numbers what you will. It's still not a good situation but it doesn't seem to be quite as bad as some try to make it sound. Another 3 personal only wards in each district would cover current first time buyers based on these numbers. What would then be left would be the relocation juggernaut as owners try to get a plot better than what they already have.
    I agree - though I feel they should have a ranked bidding system to speed up people moving in. Because out of those 750 entries; you can see how folks tend to cluster on the "house they want" rather then just being happy to get a house in general - the week long wait doesn't help either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    I agree - though I feel they should have a ranked bidding system to speed up people moving in. Because out of those 750 entries; you can see how folks tend to cluster on the "house they want" rather then just being happy to get a house in general - the week long wait doesn't help either.

    yeah sadly. The week wait is a pain, and another thing is that issue is when you log in, see someone having built or just relocated there... and then get told to piss off. Or even simply accepting back your money, it's humiliating seriously
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    I agree - though I feel they should have a ranked bidding system to speed up people moving in. Because out of those 750 entries; you can see how folks tend to cluster on the "house they want" rather then just being happy to get a house in general - the week long wait doesn't help either.
    Imagine what the bids would look like if it was something like a 2-2 schedule. You'd have half as many houses available so the bid counts would double.

    Players are going to feel better about a 1 in 25 chance to win compared to 1 in 50 chance to win when entries are spread over fewer plots.

    It would be even worse if it was the 1-1 schedule that some have suggested. We'd be back at the point where players would feel forced to log in every day to have a chance at a house just like many complained back when it was FCFS. Log in to bid. Log in to see that they lost. Log in to bid again. And so on.

    No matter how it gets scheduled, some players will continue to be unhappy because they cannot get a plot where they currently play.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    yeah sadly. The week wait is a pain, and another thing is that issue is when you log in, see someone having built or just relocated there... and then get told to piss off. Or even simply accepting back your money, it's humiliating seriously
    Lotteries by their nature can't be won by everyone. There's no reason to feel humiliated because it's random chance.

    If someone tells to you piss off when you're looking around to decide where to place a bid or to collect a refund when you didn't win, please report them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yuniko View Post
    I lost mine aswell! so that goes up to 85 lost houses! WOO!

    and you and me both honestly... It's the constant. Wait, lose, Wait, lose, wait, lose. :/
    I understand you both have your reasons for not wanting to transfer.

    Yet on Marilith, I can go to the Mist subdivision where my FC has its house and there are 8 open plots. None of them had a single bid this lottery period.

    And it's by no means the only ward/subdivision with available plots for the taking on Dynamis. A lot of players could get out of the wait/lose cycle by being willing to move and they would still be able to play with their NA friends.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 03-25-2023 at 02:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Imagine what the bids would look like if it was something like a 2-2 schedule. You'd have half as many houses available so the bid counts would double.

    Players are going to feel better about a 1 in 25 chance to win compared to 1 in 50 chance to win when entries are spread over fewer plots.

    It would be even worse if it was the 1-1 schedule that some have suggested. We'd be back at the point where players would feel forced to log in every day to have a chance at a house just like many complained back when it was FCFS. Log in to bid. Log in to see that they lost. Log in to bid again. And so on.

    No matter how it gets scheduled, some players will continue to be unhappy because they cannot get a plot where they currently play.


    Lotteries by their nature can't be won by everyone. There's no reason to feel humiliated because it's random chance.

    If someone tells to you piss off when you're looking around to decide where to place a bid or to collect a refund when you didn't win, please report them.


    I understand you both have your reasons for not wanting to transfer.

    Yet on Marilith, I can go to the Mist subdivision where my FC has its house and there are 8 open plots. None of them had a single bid this lottery period.

    And it's by no means the only ward/subdivision with available plots for the taking on Dynamis. A lot of players could get out of the wait/lose cycle by being willing to move and they would still be able to play with their NA friends.


    Yup. I know, i know. I know moving is ''easier and faster'' and i am considering it, so don't you worry.
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