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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    How is every player here suddenly a top Percentile BLM...

    Y'all can join us peasants with our Jobs being reworked, simplified, our skills getting deleted. BLM's are free to join us. You get to keep your gameplay, you're Yoshi P's lovechild and somehow still complain about the top DPS percentile performance that most of y'all never get to see. I see BLM's steamroll players, SAM's included in PF environments where people really do not want to adjust to give BLM's their positions. Even the recent Omega Ultimate, BLM's outshine SMN's in performance due to the nature of their skill-kits. And if players can take BLM's to Ultimate and perform there? anything else below it is not going to be impossible.

    I am genuinely curious... in what way is BLM suffering? what recent Job changes are BLM suffering from like the majority of us? what content could you not clear where you took BLM to in 6.35? and have you reached the peak percentage to witness the differences between the top percentile performances y'all are making such a mole hill out of?
    This is whataboutism. Make a thread to complain about your class and I will support you. The dev team has no idea what they're doing. Also your praise of BLM rings hollow according to the data, sorry. Summoners are incredibly utilized. I couldn't possibly care less if what you're saying is that you expect a Summon to be dominating DPS-- I'm sorry but you don't deserve that, not at all, unless your utility is adjusted correspondingly to be nonexistent. To be honest your post just proves my point-- everyone is clamoring for DPS for the exact reason mentioned previously, to be at the top of the board for no reason. Selfish DPS should be at the top because that's literally all they are good for, period.

    The gutting of job gameplay is completely separate problem and has nothing to do with BLM being redundant in parties. And just to emphasize-- you are answering a question with a question which is not an argument. TC asked a question, and you cannot answer it, so you are throwing out herrings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    This is whataboutism.
    " Every poster suddenly is a high Percentile performing BLM "
    That's my assumption with your response addressing nothing. Factually BLM DPS is high. My praise was aimed at skilled BLM players and factually isn't hollow, since I pointed out BLM and SMN TOP performances. If all you do is look at RDPS and RDPS alone? you're way in over your head on this topic...

    And as for play-rate comparison? that's cause BLM is regarded as 1 of if not the most difficult DPS job, and players gravitate to the easiest. Even if players did not like the changes that simplified their Jobs... And just cause Endwalker happens to be catering to melee its not like every melee loves it by default? i missed fighting for my uptime for example.

    I am genuinely asking right... in all seriousness regarding playing BLM?
    • What content are you struggling to clear.
    • What recent changes made your gameplay suffer like the rest of us
    • Have u been kicked or denied to join any party or group regarding Raiding?
    Getting hung up your DPS performance or your Jobs average? shouldn't make or break you unless it truly is unfair. You like your job cause you like the gameplay or not. At least I valued my lost gameplay a lot more then my tiny bit of DPS increase I received for nothing... Push your job to its limits, once you done that and you notice it's actually unfair? then come present that. Because I have not seen any ounce of anything from your posts. It's all... well as you put it? " whataboutism ".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    "Every poster suddenly is a high Percentile performing BLM
    It isn't high enough dps relative to others to make them feel unique or essential to any fight, and you know that. Other classes are either too self sufficient, add too much utility to the party, or do viable damage to offset any high damage a BLM might do with all the many conditions that need to happen in their favor.

    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    And as for play-rate comparison? that's cause BLM is regarded as 1 of if not the most difficult DPS job, and players gravitate to the easiest.
    I already addressed this when discussing Reaper. Reaper is more popular than BLM because it has more utility and it's easier to play. It's just that simple. So the answer to that, is to widely separate their DPS, whether that means nerfing Reaper or buffing BLM. It's just that simple. If people don't like that, then don't play an easy class with utility (Reaper). Everything is about trade offs. For knowing the fight up and down, positioning yourself flawlessly, nursing Enochian constantly, etc you should be rewarded with indisputably higher damage than a class that can heal itself/buff other players/self buff/shield itself/ do pretty good dmg with ease. Otherwise parties don't need you. That's the answer people don't want to hear because they have an expert BLM in their static who kills it every time.

    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    Have u been kicked or denied to join any party or group regarding Raiding?
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    No, I haven't been kicked out as I am relatively new but a. I know other players b. I can see examples in party finders where they aren't wanted c. I main BLM and interact with the playerbase and the expectation for us is sometimes very different and d. I have access to google. It's impossible to deny that while BLM may be welcome to raids most of the time, there's much less room for error sometimes. I've have had negative experiences in Practice raids and even casual content where people make comments about DPS with the sort of attitude that is exactly in line with what you are saying--- "Well BLM has good gameplay and high damage naturally, how is their DPS not immediately crushing everyone's?" and I've seen comments in Alliance Raids not aimed at me that were negative. You're literally doing it right now-- "Well I have a BLM in my static and they crush my DPS, so you're wrong". Yet you're living in denial of countless threads I can google over time of people complaining about this very issue. There's posts from years ago saying the same thing-- BLM participation is low...why? Your answer to this question is "oh well other classes are just easy to play" -- no. That's a partial answer. The real answer is that BLM is harder to play and there's no reward in it, because other classes will still be more desirable due to what they bring to the fight and how, and due to their damage buffs SE has handed out like candy.
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