Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Remolia]

That's so weird to me. Yeah it is kinda op. That's why you mostly cast your 111111 dps spell. So the gameplay isn't even that different?

Ye, as conjurer I have to some adjust stats, coz need mana regen, u must actually use foodbuff, and use potions (the one for mana or hp). You also have to watch u team more closely, like where they go, what are they doing, are u in range with them and etc. Use some macros for target assisting. Its kinda interesting overall, but its hard to understand, you should try urself first to understand it.

I would try to kick you and report you if we would enter a duty above lvl 35

I can just requeue again, not a big deal.

[BRVV]

Its kinda interesting overall, but its hard to understand, you should try urself first to understand it.

Maybe one day i will. I would of course ask FC friends if they want to do a class run and if needed put up a party finder. It's that simple to que as a class without being a burden

I can just requeue again, not a big deal.

No regard to other player's time. I see.

[Remolia]

Maybe one day i will. I would of course ask FC friends if they want to do a class run and if needed put up a party finder. It's that simple to que as a class without being a burden

I dont have FC to do that, most people I played with left the game on EW release.

No regard to other player's time. I see.

I can tell more, 99% of people dont even notice me playing like that

[BRVV]

I dont have FC to do that, most people I played with left the game on EW release.


I can tell more, 99% of people dont even notice me playing like that

Try to find a new one, or a static. There are a lot of players who want to run class runs.

How do you know if they notice you? You can't mind read, can you? If i run into multiple class-runners in duties on a late night i sigh, start up youtube on my phone, maybe try to vote kick them or report them after and if i'm the tank i might single pull or be too afraid to w2w at least. So i wouldn't write anything in chat. There are to many class-runners. It is 99,9% deliberate. So what good does it do to call them out? Most pretend to not know what a job stone is. That's it.

I know we spam this thread with our discussion, but there is still this 1 angle you didn't answer to yet. Do you know the others are actual players? Real humans with lifes? Most of your defense for saying it's ok to class-run boil down to YOUR enjoyment of the content while my critiques always came from the negative impact your behaviour has on OTHER players. The recommodations and the claim that most don't notice address this but even if a bunch of players are ok with it, if you que you assume everyone is. You expect them to be.

[Remolia]

Try to find a new one, or a static. There are a lot of players who want to run class runs.

Easy to say.

I know we spam this thread with our discussion, but there is still this 1 angle you didn't answer to yet. Do you know the others are actual players? Real humans with lifes? Most of your defense for saying it's ok to class-run boil down to YOUR enjoyment of the content while my critiques always came from the negative impact your behaviour has on OTHER players. The recommodations and the claim that most don't notice address this but even if a bunch of players are ok with it, if you que you assume everyone is. You expect them to be.

As long as I perform above average - nobody cares.
Few days ago I asked people not to attack "Target To Ignore" mark multiple times, with <seN>, guess what? Some of people kept attacking it. Why? Coz mostly nobody cares about anything in Normal Duties.

while my critiques always came from the negative impact your behaviour has on OTHER players.

Ok, we have a raid A, where both healers are KO, tank is about to collapse too, but I am only the only one from Raid B and C who keep healing Tank A, while some other healers keep spamming damage spell, coz their allaince is full HP (no even bothering ress other healers). Who has more negative impact here?

Ok, I am a second tank, I see that Mt is about to collapse, coz of thing happened above (both healers ko), and I am using Provoke to save the tank, instead of just sleeping. Do I have a negative impact?

I am tank who have healing potions in case of emergency.
I am a healer, who know how to use Rescue and Esuna
I am a tank who knows where to go in case of 3 adds spawn
I always use best foodbuff.

If u will think about "negative impacts" in normal duties 24/7, u will go mad, coz mostly nobody is perfect there.
Missing press-to-win spell does not make me bad, coz I am using alternative ways to keep up.

[sharknado]

I can just requeue again, not a big deal.

All it takes is a more annoying dungeon or where there is a bigger pull and even if a wipe will not be your fault you will be blamed for that. reported and vote kicked. And if you get banned due to amount of reports nobody will care if it was your fault, just middle finger and goodbye.

This is a multiplayer competitive game. Players will be angry seeing others intentionally underperforming. Nobody cares if a sprout has problems healing but if anyone sees things that can be classified as clearly inferior or incorrect behaviour they will get furious. It's fine to do your own group with your own rules but for roulettes where people can't choose it becomes a problem. And the more problematic roulette runs people get the less it will be used. People will move to party finder where only "proper" players will be accepted. Screw snowflakes and sadly also sprouts. Then slight line from getting things like RIO score from WoW.

[Remolia]

And if you get banned due to amount of reports nobody will care if it was your fault, just middle finger and goodbye.

The thing is, coz GMs receive a lot of false reports, they dont ban anyone, for having a big amount for reports.

This is a multiplayer competitive game.

Normal Duty finder is competitive? Where u can be banned if devs find out that u are using dps/hps parser and show it in /party channel, to point out bad performance of other players? Ok sure.

[sharknado]

The thing is, coz GMs receive a lot of false reports, they dont ban anyone, for having a big amount for reports

You are playing a roulette with this. You get reports and at some amount someone will look at it. Even if it will be passed at first you never know what will happen next.

Normal Duty finder is competitive?

As in you are put with 3-7 other players and have to complete a duty and if you can't then there can be a witch hunt and no job stone is the first "obvious" reason why you can't do for example last boss in Ktisis Hyperboreia GM can't replay your dungeon run, can't see if people did the mechanic but if you got 3 reports for job stone over and over then the GM can do 2+2 = 5 and do a ban... and if you actually fail something it will be double-used as a proof this is wrong/ban/cancel/revoke...

This game pushes for "positive experience" up to quite fake "positive" experience while allowing for quite a lot of simple errors that are highly triggering to people. No job stones, spamming cure I in EW content and so on for other jobs.

[Remolia]

GM can't replay your dungeon run

They can, and do

[KatiaRelanah]

Another happy story:

Joined a game-in-progress of Shisui as a SCH. Pulled off a Rescue on the tank who didn't know about the seduce mechanic on the second boss (where you have to turn yourself into an old woman), yanked them out of the aoe just in time.