what makes an MMO fell dead

[Zakuyia]

MMO developers have to develop content that appeals to the majority, if content doesn’t require a lot of time to invest in, perhaps it is the community that has to change before developers dedicate resources to content that lasts longer.

As to those who wonder why people are quiet in public chat in game, we live in a world where people can report you if you even slightly upset them, is it really a surprise people are less chatty in game.

So if you wonder why FFXIV is in its current state, you might want to look into in the mirror.

Can't even be mad at the man ^ this he not wrong. I see people talk but its not as chatter as other games. People be unhinged in this game expecting people to respect their triggers o. o when in fact that's your trigger and something you need to get under control.

[Striker44]

Can't even be mad at the man ^ this he not wrong. I see people talk but its not as chatter as other games. People be unhinged in this game expecting people to respect their triggers o. o when in fact that's your trigger and something you need to get under control.

It's weird because my group content is almost entirely roulettes with random people, and I see plenty of chatter along the way. What I don't see is the constant bickering and toxicity that dominated pretty much the only chat I saw back when I played WoW.

[magitekLuna]

MMO developers have to develop content that appeals to the majority, if content doesn’t require a lot of time to invest in, perhaps it is the community that has to change before developers dedicate resources to content that lasts longer.

As to those who wonder why people are quiet in public chat in game, we live in a world where people can report you if you even slightly upset them, is it really a surprise people are less chatty in game.

So if you wonder why FFXIV is in its current state, you might want to look into in the mirror.

what??? how its on the players the devs are lazy?

[Atelier-Bagur]

what??? how its on the players the devs are lazy?

same way how people kept arguing about (me included) the devs making more FC content but a lot of forum posters kept wanting to say otherwise stating that "if you need exclusive content to keep your FC happy then thats on you for not keeping that social space well".

FUNNY how the tables have turned when we say the same thing for non-FC stuff. Can we say "hypocrisy" much?

[magitekLuna]

same way how people kept arguing about (me included) the devs making more FC content but a lot of forum posters kept wanting to say otherwise stating that "if you need exclusive content to keep your FC happy then thats on you for not keeping that social space well".

FUNNY how the tables have turned when we say the same thing for non-FC stuff. Can we say "hypocrisy" much?

what? it be really good if there be ANY FC content. will may be make most of them a real thing and not just a name list

[Atelier-Bagur]

what? it be really good if there be ANY FC content. will may be make most of them a real thing and not just a name list

Thats what Im saying!

[hynaku]

Only thing that makes a MMO feel dead to me is no new content for months and having friends quit playing waiting for the next patch updates.

[magitekLuna]

Only thing that makes a MMO feel dead to me is no new content for months and having friends quit playing waiting for the next patch updates.

so FF14 is such a game

[Barwara]

Runescape style quests?? at the top of their game SE never made any thing even close to Runescape style quests. show me one game were it was not some linear questing

That's what made Runescape quests unique; the fact they weren't linear. It's a weird game to reference because it's so graphically unappealing (RIP avatar rework), but as the only game I played extensively as a kid, what struck me was how amazing the quests were. There was no Main Story, you were still the hero adventurer everyone knew about, but every quest was self-standing, and as a whole, all the quests told the story of that world and of its different eras.

I remember some pretty epic quests, and usually you were asked to solve puzzle, craft items during the quests, look for things without the game telling you exactly where to go, even successfully do parkour across all the roofs of a city. The easiest and dumber quests were fetch quests, but medium to hard level ones were pretty immersive.

Another thing that I liked about Runescape is that crafting, gathering and cooking made sense, because the game actually require you to use food, potions, and what not. Your inventory can only hold about 25 items, so you have to be well equipped, well stocked, and overall resourceful with what you got in your inventory, depending on what you're doing. I remember that if you were ill equipped in combat, you risked dying and losing all of your items and armor.

In FFXIV I never consume food, because I guess I don't need to. Therefore I also don't craft it. You also don't need to interact with items in quests, or use items in quests. To me FFXIV crafting is solely for gil making purposes, glamour, and housing.

I mean I'm well aware FFXIV follows a formula and SE might never implement these aspects to the game. I'm just describing what I find the most interesting in an MMO. It's less about the social aspect to me, and more about how you interact with the game.

[Naoki34]

ff14 got lots of players but at the same time it fell externally dead. why is that?
what makes an mmo lively or dead to you?

As long as there are enough players to make duty finder, it's not a dead MMO .