Nerf the Hell out of Ninja

[Towa-Musa]

literally just keep your health above 50.... if you're low on resources just backout of the fight and use a elixir, if a ninja is CHASING YOU they for sure have their LB up and are thirsty, use that against them and try to bring them to your team/spawn.

[Elfidan]

I play NIN a lot and honestly the "nerfs" have not impacted my ability to murder people en masse in the slightest. The time limit adjustment on the limit break is a joke. the removal of the super sprint was smart, but I just press actual sprint now. I actually wish they would change the limit break because it feels redundant having two assassinates. Bring back my hellfrog medium please~.

[Meowdyj]

I play NIN a lot and honestly the "nerfs" have not impacted my ability to murder people en masse in the slightest. The time limit adjustment on the limit break is a joke. the removal of the super sprint was smart, but I just press actual sprint now. I actually wish they would change the limit break because it feels redundant having two assassinates. Bring back my hellfrog medium please~.

Why would they take away the one thing that Ninja is known for? Being able to assassinate as an assassin themed job makes sense to me. The only thing that needs change is the katana wielder job that's able to kill players full HP even when shielded.

[Vatom]

Why would they take away the one thing that Ninja is known for? Being able to assassinate as an assassin themed job makes sense to me. The only thing that needs change is the katana wielder job that's able to kill players full HP even when shielded.

ZZZzzzz...

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Why would they take away the one thing that Ninja is known for? Being able to assassinate as an assassin themed job makes sense to me. The only thing that needs change is the katana wielder job that's able to kill players full HP even when shielded.

So a Ninja isnt known for versatility and mobility? Or generally having the asian chanting aesthetic (Mudra) with many tricks up their sleeves?

If anything I'd argue "Assassination" is straight from Rogue roots. We had such a thing, it did more damage the lower the enemy HP is (like Fester and Harvest Moon right now).

But just hitting the right snapshot and then guaranteeing death even when they theoretically got healed to full and had a shield somehow is straight up boring.

I lament NIN being mediocre, because they are held hostage by the raw potential of this ability.

[Elfidan]

Why would they take away the one thing that Ninja is known for? Being able to assassinate as an assassin themed job makes sense to me. The only thing that needs change is the katana wielder job that's able to kill players full HP even when shielded.

That's the thing, you can still assassinate. It's literally the next skill you use after you Shukuchi. Unless ofc you forgot to use your second Raijin. Seiton Tenchu is just a set of training wheels to be honest. You don't really need to it kill people because your damage throughput on NIN is great.

I agree however that adding zantetsuken to player actions was dumb and seemingly only done for ff6 nostalgia (same as chainsaw btw). I like the idea of a counter strike that kills but the execution of it lacking. I don't think it's a problem in CC however where you can only ever have 1 enemy SAM to play around. instead of having them hidden in piles of other jobs.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

That's the thing, you can still assassinate. It's literally the next skill you use after you Shukuchi. Unless ofc you forgot to use your second Raijin. Seiton Tenchu is just a set of training wheels to be honest. You don't really need to it kill people because your damage throughput on NIN is great.

I agree however that adding zantetsuken to player actions was dumb and seemingly only done for ff6 nostalgia (same as chainsaw btw). I like the idea of a counter strike that kills but the execution of it lacking. I don't think it's a problem in CC however where you can only ever have 1 enemy SAM to play around. instead of having them hidden in piles of other jobs.

On the matter of Zantetsuken, it wouldn't even need the guaranteed oneshot on Chiten retaliation. even if it only enhanced on the 25% and ignored Guard still it would bang hard as an AOE gapcloser for 30000 damage. That's still fairly solid given it is more responsive than Sky Shatter to execute.

[Llynethil]

50% is kinda too high tbh, 35% or so would be better as an execute.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

50% is kinda too high tbh, 35% or so would be better as an execute.

Imo axe the execute completely for something more NIN-esque. Id find it cooler summoning and riding a giant toad like in the Naruto series or something in the likes of Ten Chi Jin but as a massively revamped ability, like how Eventide is a DRK's WOW! version of Living Dead.

"Fourth Mudra" if you know the job quests.

[Elfidan]

Yeah, for sure Reinhardt.