The current state of the "MMORPG" FFXIV is unsustainable. Here's why

[Raven2014]

Ive been playing this game long enough to see the effects of feedback/complaining, its a thing wether you alike it or not.

Funny, I made a thread exactly about that just 2 weeks ago, so in a way I actually agree with that. But you're missing my point here, I'm just pointing out the irony of the previous poster.

But trade blame all you want, call other casual and yourself hardcore if it makes you feel better. But at the end of the day a casual and a hardcore player are just players all the same. Unless you believe hardcore pay an additional tax that make them a more valuable customers? At the end of the day numbers is what matter. The Alex almost killed their raiding community, and crafting in 3.0 was so covulunted that only the most "hardcore" crafter would even try to understand and pursuit it. Again, number talk, and statistic is the only thing matter, not the gazillion spin up people can come up to convince themselves by mental gymnastics.


I will say Yoshi and SE should always make the game they want to make, and I will never ask them to make a game that "suit" me. As a customer, I look at their offering and decide for myself "yes, this is for me, so here is my money". If one day that stop being the case, I just leave and take my money elsewhere, as simple as that. I believe the dev should always make the game they want to make, not the game each different players want. A developer that tries to please everyone will end up pleasing none. People like you are the living example of that.

I enjoy the game not because Yoshi is making FF14 tailor to me, it's merely a happy coincidence that his vision and my taste align.

[raelgun]

Funny, I made a thread exactly about that just 2 weeks ago, so in a way I actually agree with that. But you're missing my point here, I'm just pointing out the irony of the previous poster.

But trade blame all you want, call other casual and yourself hardcore if it makes you feel better. But at the end of the day a casual and a hardcore player are just players all the same. Unless you believe hardcore pay an additional tax that make them a more valuable customers? At the end of the day numbers is what matter. The Alex almost killed their raiding community, and crafting in 3.0 was so covulunted that only the most "hardcore" crafter would even try to understand and pursuit it. Again, number talk, and statistic is the only thing matter, not the gazillion spin up people can come up to convince themselves by mental gymnastics.


I will say Yoshi and SE should always make the game they want to make, and I will never ask them to make a game that "suit" me. As a customer, I look at their offering and decide for myself "yes, this is for me, so here is my money". If one day that stop being the case, I just leave and take my money elsewhere, as simple as that. I believe the dev should always make the game they want to make, not the game each different players want. A developer that tries to please everyone will end up pleasing none. People like you are the living example of that.

I enjoy the game not because Yoshi is making FF14 tailor to me, it's merely a happy coincidence that his vision and my taste align.

You just happen to feed into my point, you are happy with what the game has become from the changes made in the past to get it to this point and argueing back when people state something different to your tastes.

So perhaps just accept that people are voicing out changes to be made as the current changes made are not good enough, and if they change it tough it up.

What you are saying is, instead of voicing a complaint to enact a change, is to take away the voice, go somewhere else so players like you can enjoy the game as is and let it stay like this?

Thats not how this works, hopefully enough feedback gets sent about the current distain about the current situation so another change is made.

[Raven2014]

You just happen to feed into my point, you are happy with what the game has become from the changes made in the past to get it to this point and argueing back when people state something different to your tastes.

Sure, but are you also missing the main point I'm making: if you change the game because one side is unhappy, you're just making the happy people unhappy. To be fair, I have no issue with people staking their desire, the issue have always been the way it is done. I don't fault you for wanting to ask more of what you want, I just don't like people have to look down (on the casual) to make their point. In case you miss the obvious, that's why I kept asking what make the hardcore player more valuable then a casual players?

I am someone who run and clear savage/ultimate. Does that make me a hardcore player? I am also someone who enjoy running the new alliance raids and touring around other content with no commitment ... does that make me a casual player? That's why I said those labels are fairly meaningless to me. I enjoy the game for what it's offering, regardless of how people want to call those offering. What does that make me? I can tell you right now, if SE strip and remove savage/ultimate from the game ... they'll lose me as a customer. But at the same time, if they focus hard on the raiding content at the expense of the "casual" content, then they will also lose me as a customer. I played WoW and enjoyed it, and I know it will always be an option if I've want that experience again, but I don't need a WoW clone in this game.


FF14 is like a full course meal or buffet that focus on variety. I'm simply getting the most from it because I enjoy all the difference and contrast flavors, rather commit into one or two specific dishes. If you are someone who can only enjoy one specific type of food, you should never waste your money and time on a buffet, but should go to a specialty restaurant.