Why do people avoid getting better at the game?

[Shinkuno]

You must've played some shit JRPGs then. Not even Square's own actual singleplayer JRPGs have such monotonous gameplay.

Its just the go-to argument those people picked up and keep parroting. Doubt any of them played an actual jrpg

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Have fun figuring out how to keep a massive MMORPG designed for casual players afloat without the casual player revenue.

Again, those other games exist. Can't understand why people complain about X game not being Y-enough when Y-Game literally exists and is available to play.

Remember, hardcore content exists because there is demand for it, but it's more of a bone-thrown situation than the main "deal". Yoshi-P even ranted about "What's the point of even having hardcore content if people just cheat it", so it's not like he's married to the idea of even having hard content at all.

That's because Yoshi needs to get his headt out of his rear end and realize they have a mediocre MMO at best. As for casuals they still are a cancer. If you gave them FFXI they wouldn't know what to do like any other game. Only thing casuals know is how to be lazy incompetent RP'ers with nothing else to do but drag the good players down and cry for help. So sick of casuals ruing the MMO games to cater to them and Yoshi encourages because he doesn't have the guts to actually do something. Speaking of Yoshi only reason he has made many changes to the QoL of FFXIV was because people made tools to make the UI better and added much needed things then they ban the people AND then implement what they did. Goes to show Yoshi is not the greatest dev for the game and how he caters to cancerous casuals shows it. If people want something brain dead go play another game and if a braindead player gets shown they get called out. I am not sorry for stating the facts

[kaynide]

You must've played some shit JRPGs then. Not even Square's own actual singleplayer JRPGs have such monotonous gameplay.

Final Fantasy 4's opening mission is literally "Go to that town to trigger a cutscene". And that's while dealing with random encounters every 3-4 steps. I daresay the gameplay is has a bit improved.

[kaynide]

That's because Yoshi needs to get his headt out of his rear end and realize they have a mediocre MMO at best.

No one is forcing you to play a game you feel is mediocre, at best. Indeed, why you are so passionate about being angry over it being what it is is mind boggling.

[Bearded]

Some people (actually a great many people) do not have any interest in the extreme / savage / ultimate content. That does not make someone who does that content good and those who do not do it bad. To use the terms good and bad in relation to players is a reflection of the mindset of the person making such a statement.

For me I have no interest in the so-called "harder" content. To be honest the "throw a ton of crazy mechanics at players in duty" is all getting a bit silly now and it is honestly hard to remember all the bad to avoid and the mechanics of all the duties. That does not make me a bad player.

I enjoy the game - I gather and craft and do the main quest with diversions of the tribal and other quests. Personally I could not find anything more uninteresting than repeating duty grinds for gear which becomes outdated in a matter of months but some people enjoy that and good on them. Again that does not make me a bad player.

The only bad players are ones who do not try their best, do not listen to help or say they are better than everyone else.

[Jojoya]

You must've played some shit JRPGs then. Not even Square's own actual singleplayer JRPGs have such monotonous gameplay.

If you find the gameplay monotonous, why do you continue to pay for and support the game? By paying, you're sending the message that overall you're satisfied with what you are calling monotonous gameplay.

There are so many other games out there to choose from. Are all of those games monotonous to you as well so you would rather spend your money here instead of on them?

That's because Yoshi needs to get his headt out of his rear end and realize they have a mediocre MMO at best. As for casuals they still are a cancer. If you gave them FFXI they wouldn't know what to do like any other game. Only thing casuals know is how to be lazy incompetent RP'ers with nothing else to do but drag the good players down and cry for help. So sick of casuals ruing the MMO games to cater to them and Yoshi encourages because he doesn't have the guts to actually do something. Speaking of Yoshi only reason he has made many changes to the QoL of FFXIV was because people made tools to make the UI better and added much needed things then they ban the people AND then implement what they did. Goes to show Yoshi is not the greatest dev for the game and how he caters to cancerous casuals shows it. If people want something brain dead go play another game and if a braindead player gets shown they get called out. I am not sorry for stating the facts

Same question to you. Why are you still here paying for the game if you feel it is so bad? Why are you not spending your money on a game you feel is better?

[Xirean]

As for casuals they still are a cancer. If you gave them FFXI they wouldn't know what to do like any other game. Only thing casuals know is how to be lazy incompetent RP'ers with nothing else to do but drag the good players down and cry for help.

If you think "casuals" and RPers are lazy you should really try visiting an RP venue sometime. Those people put A TON of work into that stuff and are quite good at it. Perhaps you should take a look at what it is those people actually like if you feel the game is being catered to them. Who knows, you might like it.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

If you find the gameplay monotonous, why do you continue to pay for and support the game? By paying, you're sending the message that overall you're satisfied with what you are calling monotonous gameplay.

There are so many other games out there to choose from. Are all of those games monotonous to you as well so you would rather spend your money here instead of on them?


Same question to you. Why are you still here paying for the game if you feel it is so bad? Why are you not spending your money on a game you feel is better?

To answer your question there. We have voiced over and over what needs to be fixed and done to help make the game much better and impactful instead of being what it is now. Sadly Yoshi rather hear the voices of the weak players then people that have been here since the beginning and has seen the decline in content, difficulty and story. Endwalker story after the initial coat of paint wasn't all that great. So many things in the story just doesn't appeal anymore or even have impact. Let's take Y'shtola for example instead of having her die twice and brought back should of left her die to make it more impactful. So if she does in the next expansion and brought back who is really going to care. When doing dungeons and raids you don't even have to think anymore. You can go in mind numbingly and complete it but it doesn't feel rewarding.

The reason a lot of players hate how FFXIV has become casual is the fact that rewards are lackluster for completing anything. Time and time again we asked for much better horizontal gear progression. We asked for better U.I improvements. We asked for better job improvements. We asked for better PVP improvements. We asked for skill improvements. They took away skills for no reason i.e protection, stoneskin etc. Healers have been gutted time and time again. we have voiced this many many times but we get ignored because some casuals cry over something being hard or a job hard to learn. That is why we are angry They have had many years to improve these things but Yoshi thinks something like Island Sanctuary is the answer. No YOSHI it isn't you have something here that has great potential but instead you are shortening it and instead took your time away for a FFXVI that I don't even care about. This is why we are tired of Yoshi and his lies

[Absurdity]

If you find the gameplay monotonous, why do you continue to pay for and support the game? By paying, you're sending the message that overall you're satisfied with what you are calling monotonous gameplay.

There are so many other games out there to choose from. Are all of those games monotonous to you as well so you would rather spend your money here instead of on them?

And here comes the usual "just unsub lol" response, almost like clockwork.

The reason I haven't unsubscribed is because for now the MSQ is only a very tiny part of the game and so far the rest of the gameplay hasn't been reduced to "Go to A, talk to the guy, go from A to B, talk to another guy, back to A, watch a cutscene"...yet.

[VelKallor]

That's because Yoshi needs to get his headt out of his rear end and realize they have a mediocre MMO at best.

Your opinion vs the huge player influx and rave reviews say otherwise.

As for casuals they still are a cancer.

I bet you are fun at parties.

If you gave them FFXI they wouldn't know what to do like any other game.

Why would they want to?

Only thing casuals know is how to be lazy incompetent RP'ers with nothing else to do but drag the good players down and cry for help.

......not getting the logic here....

So sick of casuals ruing the MMO games to cater to them and Yoshi encourages because he doesn't have the guts to actually do something.

And what exactly would that be?

Speaking of Yoshi only reason he has made many changes to the QoL of FFXIV was because people made tools to make the UI better and added much needed things then they ban the people AND then implement what they did. Goes to show Yoshi is not the greatest dev for the game and how he caters to cancerous casuals shows it. If people want something brain dead go play another game and if a braindead player gets shown they get called out. I am not sorry for stating the facts

The game is perfectly playable without the need for third party tools. This sounds like a you problem.

we

Who is "we" exactly?