The current state of the "MMORPG" FFXIV is unsustainable. Here's why

[Striker44]

I've noticed a few think people are BLAMING casuals for the game becoming boring and I don't think that's the issue but I do feel players are overly requesting the devs to make the game TOO casual. Which is how we're in this mess. Now we have players saying "This isn't the same when I first joined and now finding it boring because it doesn't give me the fun it use to" and the point of this thread is to say "Stop making the game too easy and give us a reason to grind and have fun". It's great that players are enjoying the very casual aspect of the game but it ignores one side of the players and focuses too much on another. To me, EW feels like a STRONG repeat of SHB. It has a few new things but it's nothing that's really 'new'. Even Island Sanctuary is another rinse and repeat of gathering jobs but in a wider aspect. It's nothing truly game-changing. It strongly feel like we're being given the same dish over and over and the taste is becoming bland. So you can't blame players for feeling dull and wanting to request better changes to stay in the game they love.

Except by "mess" you mean "a ton of casual gamers absolutely enjoying the game and giving it the highest playerbase ever while the select few wannabe hardcore gamers throw temper tantrums that a game always designed for casual gamers is continuing that trend." There's no "mess" here - there's just playing a game intended for a different audience and complaining that it's not changing its very nature to suit you personally.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Except by "mess" you mean "a ton of casual gamers absolutely enjoying the game and giving it the highest playerbase ever while the select few wannabe hardcore gamers throw temper tantrums that a game always designed for casual gamers is continuing that trend." There's no "mess" here - there's just playing a game intended for a different audience and complaining that it's not changing its very nature to suit you personally.

to be fair, the actual good "hardcore" players ask for more harder content. But I didnt realize Savage, EXs and Ultimates arent enough for them? I sure hope Criterion becomes a big thing for them. Sucks we only have one of it and the rewards are lacking. They should add unique dungeon sets for them imo

[magitekLuna]

Except by "mess" you mean "a ton of casual gamers absolutely enjoying the game and giving it the highest playerbase ever while the select few wannabe hardcore gamers throw temper tantrums that a game always designed for casual gamers is continuing that trend." There's no "mess" here - there's just playing a game intended for a different audience and complaining that it's not changing its very nature to suit you personally.

absolutely enjoying the game is a bit overstatement if you ask me. there players that like the things as they are but do the PLAY THE GAME or are they the one that just AFK in a city . as most raiders are not happy. most what you call "casuals" are not happy. when was the last time you did see some one say "yes i love to run the same 2 dungeons i have for expert for 8 month" or any other roulette. the mentality is "lets rush this thing so we finish it and move on" . now the people that are not the top raiders at last have this something other. but what the "casuals" do after they finished roulettes? they afk. and before you ask yes i normally ask the party members i get in different roulettes how they fell about the game. at first most say "yes i love it" but when i ask them "even the same 2 dungeons for expert" " even the cornet stat of most jobs" " the way the msq is" most starting to say "well not this parts". but then it comes to what you do but this parts.
so in game try to talk to people and show them first you are not a yoshi fan boy. then you will start to get what they really fell. and yes there players that genially love they way things are.

to be fair, the actual good "hardcore" players ask for more harder content. But I didnt realize Savage, EXs and Ultimates arent enough for them? I sure hope Criterion becomes a big thing for them. Sucks we only have one of it and the rewards are lacking. They should add unique dungeon sets for them imo

only if you look at the current trends most of them stopped playing. for the time or over all.

[Shinkuno]

Except by "mess" you mean "a ton of casual gamers absolutely enjoying the game and giving it the highest playerbase ever while the select few wannabe hardcore gamers throw temper tantrums that a game always designed for casual gamers is continuing that trend." There's no "mess" here - there's just playing a game intended for a different audience and complaining that it's not changing its very nature to suit you personally.

Lets see how long people can enjoy spending a monthly sub to have a game running afk in the background. A pure hardcore game wont survive, but a game with no content for the sake of "casuals" wont either. Its no suprise the most popular games on the market are highly competitive games with enough casual appeal to have them stick around.

[KhudusQestir]

Lets see how long people can enjoy spending a monthly sub to have a game running afk in the background. A pure hardcore game wont survive, but a game with no content for the sake of "casuals" wont either. Its no suprise the most popular games on the market are highly competitive games with enough casual appeal to have them stick around.

[AnnRam]

Except by "mess" you mean "a ton of casual gamers absolutely enjoying the game and giving it the highest playerbase ever while the select few wannabe hardcore gamers throw temper tantrums that a game always designed for casual gamers is continuing that trend." There's no "mess" here - there's just playing a game intended for a different audience and complaining that it's not changing its very nature to suit you personally.

"Highest player base" lol

Numbers means nothing, while I'm sitting here since Saturday trying to do Mount Ordeals and have to wait more than 30 minutes for the NEWEST content AVALIABLE.
Casuals are casuals, they pick one game, mess around a little and leave to the next flavor of the month, same in FFXIV casuals complete the current patch and move on.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

"Highest player base" lol

Numbers means nothing, while I'm sitting here since Saturday trying to do Mount Ordeals and have to wait more than 30 minutes for the NEWEST content AVALIABLE.
Casuals are casuals, they pick one game, mess around a little and leave to the next flavor of the month, same in FFXIV casuals complete the current patch and move on.

I haven't even gotten out of bed yet... It's still early morning west coast. And the story mode only requires a single completion. I haven't gotten it in trial roulette since the first week, since most have already done the story.




Also, if you are trying to use server time to prove a point... That's utc +0, so....

[TomsYoungerBro]

I haven't even gotten out of bed yet... It's still early morning west coast. And the story mode only requires a single completion. I haven't gotten it in trial roulette since the first week, since most have already done the story.

I too enjoy content that dies within its own patch

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I too enjoy content that dies within its own patch

Almost all content is dead at 8:30 am on the weekends.....


Plus, EX is the repeatable content you are looking for. Go farm your 50 clears.