What lore do you ignore?

[SannaR]

Gatekeeping people from enjoying any content creation where the name is used instead of Hydaelyn. So YouTube videos come to mind and forums where the topic titles doesn't indicate there's Endwalker spoilers in them.



I don't appreciate being called a troll for participating in a discussion. You don't have to be a troll to dislike something. Especially when I already list my in-game lore reason why it doesn't seem to work in-game.

Your in game reason doesn't read as an in game reason though. Most people who write lore videos or talk about Endwalker things tend to have a spoiler warning attached to them. I'm not sure why a person with the free trial would be watching or reading about subjects that most likely would be spoilers for them.

[Cleretic]

Your in game reason doesn't read as an in game reason though. Most people who write lore videos or talk about Endwalker things tend to have a spoiler warning attached to them. I'm not sure why a person with the free trial would be watching or reading about subjects that most likely would be spoilers for them.

Yeah, as a lore-talker, I am going to say I go to lengths to avoid any clear spoilers in the thumbnail, title or any part of my videos before the spoiler warning itself. Oftentimes this is actually very easy, because there's a difference between 'showing things that spoil the story' and 'showing things that happen to be from later in the game'; if you don't have the context about something, it can often be hard to get enough of it to know there's a spoiler in the first place, and often there's beats that are so innocent and publicly known they aren't spoilers, like 'we go to Sharlayan'. Other times it can be very difficult, though; a great example is when I made a video comparing Emet-Selch and Fandaniel, where it was fairly easy to get a picture of Emet since he doesn't really have any spoilers in appearance, but it's actually damn near impossible for Fandaniel because he wears three faces, and every single one of them is some kind of spoiler.

I think it's right to be concerned about spoiling people who aren't done with the story or are on a free trial, but if I'm going to listen to anyone tell me what to do there, it's going to be someone who actually is or has been in that position. And JepMZ isn't that; they joined the forums in 2015, have seven jobs at level 90, and a lineup of minions that they couldn't have unless they were around for multiple years of events. So this smacks of a 'won't somebody please think of the children' style of straw-moralizing, attacking people for threatening or marginalizing a community that's basically completely fictionalized and abstract.

After all, if you're going to say we're wrong for talking about the story in a way that's 'not friendly to those on a free trial', how are we, as people who have finished the story, supposed to freely talk about it amongst ourselves?


EDIT: Incidentally, this is exactly what I was talking about with my question about 'why are people ignoring these'. Because there's perfectly legitimate reasons to ignore that being the standard and immediately-adopted name, that sort of language update doesn't happen overnight no matter how 'correct' it is... but that's not what they're arguing, they're mainly just using this thread to say 'Thing I Don't Like Is Bad'.

[Iscah]

...there's perfectly legitimate reasons to ignore that being the standard and immediately-adopted name, that sort of language update doesn't happen overnight no matter how 'correct' it is...

Across a large population, probably not, but for the adoption of the term Etheirys we're really just talking about the Scions and a small group of Sharlayans who are "in the know" – and the Sharlayans quite likely were already familiar with the term from their previous correspondence with the Loporrits, where again it would have been immediately practical in their discussions to have distinct terms for Hydaelyn-the-entity and Etheirys-the-planet to avoid confusion between terms.