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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    But this time, it's rng + having a premade party. Nothing wrong with rng, we're used to it. The second part is more problematic.
    You can always go solo you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BristolRuss View Post
    You can always go solo you know?
    I'm not sure I'll even reach stage 40 solo. with all those OS mobs in 30+, I'll for sure do an error at one time. Call me bad if you want, but I don't care, that's the whole point of this thread. why are some triple triads cards rewards on par extreme mounts while 99% of the TT content is aimed for casual play. A lot of RNG, a lot of unlocking behind side quests/stories sure. But only 6 cards (or 3, depending of your take on the masked carnivale) on 377 are behind high difficulty content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    I'm not sure I'll even reach stage 40 solo. with all those OS mobs in 30+, I'll for sure do an error at one time. Call me bad if you want, but I don't care, that's the whole point of this thread. why are some triple triads cards rewards on par extreme mounts while 99% of the TT content is aimed for casual play. A lot of RNG, a lot of unlocking behind side quests/stories sure. But only 6 cards (or 3, depending of your take on the masked carnivale) on 377 are behind high difficulty content.
    If you make sure your aetherpool armor and weapon are high enough, as well as read up on some of the abilities used by the floor 31-40 mobs, you shouldn't really have too much of an issue soloing it. Maygi has made an informative guide on pretty much everything Eureka Orthos, noting any important abilities that you'll have to look out for.

    Alternatively, going in with just one other player should make it easy/safer to farm silver sacks for the card.

    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    Do you not get that some of these cards have a drop rate of LESS THAN 1%!?

    Come on...
    The Gancanagh card is unlikely to have a <1% drop rate. Had it drop from one of the first silver sacks I obtained, along with a few others that I ran with when trying to go for a floor 100 clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    If you make sure your aetherpool armor and weapon are high enough, as well as read up on some of the abilities used by the floor 31-40 mobs, you shouldn't really have too much of an issue soloing it. Maygi has made an informative guide on pretty much everything Eureka Orthos, noting any important abilities that you'll have to look out for.

    Alternatively, going in with just one other player should make it easy/safer to farm silver sacks for the card.


    The Gancanagh card is unlikely to have a <1% drop rate. Had it drop from one of the first silver sacks I obtained, along with a few others that I ran with when trying to go for a floor 100 clear.
    So the answer is to spend hours farming Aetherpool gear, then be sure to read a guide from an external source, then fight RNG to get the accursed hoard, THEN fight RNG AGAIN to hope you obtain it from the silver sack. . .

    to obtain a TT card that should be from an NPC (you know, actual triple triad play) or should logically drop from the floor 10 boss (which it represents).

    I know CBU3 has a hard time understanding this concept, but RNG on top of RNG isn't fun. It's frustrating. If they wanted to put it in Eureka Orthos, fine, that's their decision. But it should have been a reward from the floor 10 boss or from the Aetherpool fragments so any player can realistically solo it.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 03-20-2023 at 12:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    to obtain a TT card that should be from an NPC (you know, actual triple triad play) or should logically drop from the floor 10 boss (which it represents).
    To be fair, Beatrice card drops from Scarmiglione. This isn't something new.

    As someone that does collect every card, I am NOT looking forward to obtaining this card. However, I think if I actually do focus on getting the mount from clearing it multiple times, the card will come naturally.

    I've always seen TT cards from non-NPCs as something that is less painful to do when you aren't actually trying to get the card. For example, I didn't try to get the Emerald Weapon card from Emerald Normal. I tried for the mount and got the card while helping other people in the party get their mount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    So the answer is to spend hours farming Aetherpool gear, then be sure to read a guide from an external source, then fight RNG to get the accursed hoard, THEN fight RNG AGAIN to hope you obtain it from the silver sack. . .

    to obtain a TT card that should be from an NPC (you know, actual triple triad play) or should logically drop from the floor 10 boss (which it represents).

    I know CBU3 has a hard time understanding this concept, but RNG on top of RNG isn't fun. It's frustrating. If they wanted to put it in Eureka Orthos, fine, that's their decision. But it should have been a reward from the floor 10 boss or from the Aetherpool fragments so any player can realistically solo it.
    Yes, the answer to obtaining this card is playing the game.

    When it comes to hours of farming, how is this any different from one of the following:

    - Dungeons that can randomly give you the TT card at the end
    - Reaching FATE rank 3 in a zone + 200-300 bicolored gemstones
    - Completion of BLU quests
    - Completion of three EX trials (Ruby, Emerald, Diamond)
    - Random drop from an EX trial (Memoria Misera)
    - Every Anemos/Pagos/Pyros/Hydatos card on their initial release
    - Requiring a multiple weeks of turn ins/dailies (Moogle tribe to unlock a TT NPC, rank 5 Anden to unlock the card on the bicolor gemstone vendor)

    Is it because players have to do a set of mildly challenging floors, for a card that's unlikely to have a low drop rate? The guide is not a requirement for floor 31-40, I threw it in there as advice towards CNitsah because it'd be one way to make their experience a bit smoother. Mainly because the patrolling mob, along with Twisting Dive being things that can somewhat surprise people initially, but are relatively easy to avoid when you know about them.

    Alternatively, if this is too big of a deal for someone, just wait for them to add it to an NPC. That's what they generally do after a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    When it comes to hours of farming, how is this any different from one of the following:

    - Dungeons that can randomly give you the TT card at the end
    - Reaching FATE rank 3 in a zone + 200-300 bicolored gemstones
    - Completion of BLU quests
    - Completion of three EX trials (Ruby, Emerald, Diamond)
    - Random drop from an EX trial (Memoria Misera)
    - Every Anemos/Pagos/Pyros/Hydatos card on their initial release
    - Requiring a multiple weeks of turn ins/dailies (Moogle tribe to unlock a TT NPC, rank 5 Anden to unlock the card on the bicolor gemstone vendor)
    It cannot be just tagged. that's the big difference. You can just tag for the thing and run it, and stop when you have enough of it. Here you have to be ready to invest yourself for a several hours runs with people. If you can do it with people you know, you can do it in several session. If you have to use pf, here becomes the annoyance. If we could just tag for thoses floors, it would be fine to me. The difference is the accessibility of the content. But no, you have to make premade, and if not lucky, one of the guy leaves you after floor 30 because you're too slow. You can't ask random people to come back next week because you want to stop for now. The farm itself was never the problem.

    To me, this is closer to getting some of the worst field notes in bozja, with the difference that in bozja, everyone plays the same way. If you feel the need to leave, because you don't like your party, are tired, or whatever the reason, you don't penalize everyone.
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    Last edited by CNitsah; 03-20-2023 at 07:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CNitsah View Post
    It cannot be just tagged. that's the big difference. You can just tag for the thing and run it, and stop when you have enough of it. Here you have to be ready to invest yourself for a several hours runs with people. If you can do it with people you know, you can do it in several session. If you have to use pf, here becomes the annoyance. If we could just tag for thoses floors, it would be fine to me. The difference is the accessibility of the content. But no, you have to make premade, and if not lucky, one of the guy leaves you after floor 30 because you're too slow. You can't ask random people to come back next week because you want to stop for now. The farm itself was never the problem.

    To me, this is closer to getting some of the worst field notes in bozja, with the difference that in bozja, everyone plays the same way. If you feel the need to leave, because you don't like your party, are tired, or whatever the reason, you don't penalize everyone.
    First of all, what do you mean with tag/tagged?

    Why do you need several hours to run floor 21-40? Starting at floor 1 is only a hard requirement for the solo achievement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranhansha View Post
    People choose the weirdest things to be elitist about. Triple Triad among all things. A 3-star Triple Triad card!
    "Wadayamean you wanna play TT to get dem TT cardz? Git gud kidz Imma break muh extra copies to make ya'll mad cuz I'm mean like that mwhehehe and I hope next time yoship makes ya'll lazy casuals clear the whole thing to get dem materias and prisms mwahaha Triple Triad is serious business"
    Triple Triad can be played just fine without this card.

    There's nothing weird about completionism of any collection taking a bit of a grind, at times. Especially when it's from content that's not even two weeks old.
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    Last edited by Nezerius; 03-20-2023 at 09:48 AM.