We should be able to mute crafters

[Eraden]

Explain what ignorant attitude I displayed, please. Rather than being accusatory, yes? Because you're just proving everything Stormpeaks and the OP have been complaining about otherwise.

All I said is that the quip people have pointed out, that there is a way to mute sound effects, is not the point of this thread overall. That OP clearly knows that the option exists, but likely doesn't want.

Heck, unlike people whose one and only thought seemed to stop at the obvious, I actually pointed out an alternative, because I'm well aware that SE isn't likely to add specific sliders for this.

Explain to me, Mao, in what way was I "ignorant".

Because what does seem to be ignorant is people constantly stopping their thought process at the obvious. I'm very certain, reading the past 7 pages, that people are well aware the option to lower SFX exists. But what doesn't exist is the option to be select about it.

What others took from it was "Yes, it'd be nice to be able to discriminate between sound types."
What I took from it was "Well, that doesn't seem realistic. But there is an alternative that might be. Because the issue to a lot of people are repetitive and loud sounds, which quickly become obnoxious."
What people stopping their reasoning at the SFX option take from it "Yet another post complaining about something that can be done with the press of a macro, why haven't they tried?"

OP was courteous to people in his request. And several people who agreed with OP entirely were as well. Those people didn't direct OP with

Because so many things in this game exist simply because people asked for the option to be there.
Stuff that we really could have lived well without. Stuff that the game worked fine for years without it being there, and now it's an option there.

That's all there is. Being snarky at OP for having a request that apparently several people share isn't going to make the suggestion any better. The ability to change sound effects has been noted. But there are ways around this. They could go the way OP said. Or they could go any other alternative. If something is meant to be temporary, why are we now shaming OP for wanting something permanent and long-term? Heck, all Stormpeaks said was "OP is helping themself, they're asking for a way to deal with those sounds beyond muting every single sound effect".

Where am I being ignorant?

Midareyukki presumed Mao thought OP was the "problem". Midareyukkki presumed Mao was not "sympathetic" with OP. Midareyukki never even bothered to ASK Mao if Mao was sympathetic or if Mao thought havings more QOL features would be good (hint: Is ALWAYS good to has more QOL features). Therefore Midareyukki was acting ignorants.

[Midareyukki]

Midareyukki presumed Mao thought OP was the "problem". Midareyukkki presumed Mao was not "sympathetic" with OP. Midareyukki never even bothered to ASK Mao if Mao was sympathetic or if Mao thought havings more QOL features would be good (hint: Is ALWAYS good to has more QOL features). Therefore Midareyukki was acting ignorants.

Here's the thing though.

You replied to Stormpeaks like she was a problem.
Especially given Stormpeaks was replying to someone who was being snarky and directing a noxious attitude toward OP.

Stormpeaks didn't do anything wrong. Your quote was:

Stormpeaks not "listening". Wissp mentioned "TEMPORARY" solution. Is solution that can be done NOW. If MathildisMMORPG havings such difficulties with sound, this solution can be done NOW to alleviate difficulties until maybe another solution made in future.

Assuming everyone acknowledges that the option exists to begin with? The problem wasn't that there's a temporary solution.

The problem was the complete derision of the thread's purpose and making OP seem like an idiot for not having muted all sound effects sooner. Hence why I even quoted their quip, that they think there is "no helping people who refuse to take initiative and help themselves". That was entirely uncalled for.

And Stormpeaks simply replied with "But OP is helping themself. OP is asking for more QoL".

What you, in turn, said was:
"Stormpeaks not "listening""
and "Does Stormpeaks think Devs can just snap fingers and has instant new solution created?"
Which, no, that wasn't what Stormpeaks was talking about. And even if it was Temporary like you yourself said, there are caveats to it.

Also, note how I always say "you all", "you guys"? It wasn't directed only at you, Mao. It was in general, for people going out of their way to throw dumb quips at OP like that. And if I made the mistake of assuming you were involved, then I'm sorry. But also understand that the sequence of events really made it look like you were calling Stormpeaks out for being ignorant, when really Stormpeaks was just responding to someone being obtuse.

[Eraden]

Here's the thing though.

You replied to Stormpeaks like she was a problem.
Especially given Stormpeaks was replying to someone who was being snarky and directing a noxious attitude toward OP.

Stormpeaks didn't do anything wrong. Your quote was:



Assuming everyone acknowledges that the option exists to begin with? The problem wasn't that there's a temporary solution.

The problem was the complete derision of the thread's purpose and making OP seem like an idiot for not having muted all sound effects sooner. Hence why I even quoted their quip, that they think there is "no helping people who refuse to take initiative and help themselves". That was entirely uncalled for.

And Stormpeaks simply replied with "But OP is helping themself. OP is asking for more QoL".

What you, in turn, said was:
"Stormpeaks not "listening""
and "Does Stormpeaks think Devs can just snap fingers and has instant new solution created?"
Which, no, that wasn't what Stormpeaks was talking about. And even if it was Temporary like you yourself said, there are caveats to it.

Also, note how I always say "you all", "you guys"? It wasn't directed only at you, Mao. It was in general, for people going out of their way to throw dumb quips at OP like that. And if I made the mistake of assuming you were involved, then I'm sorry. But also understand that the sequence of events really made it look like you were calling Stormpeaks out for being ignorant, when really Stormpeaks was just responding to someone being obtuse.

Mao did not say Stormpeaks was ignorants. Mao said Stormpeaks not listening to Wissp. Wissp talkings about "TEMPORARY" fix. This indicates Wissp may be amenables to QOL changes down the line but that maybe Wissp understands is nots gonna happen soon. Stormpeaks should also be understandings that. Changes don't seem to be made quickly with this company. In meantime, OP CAN use current game features to deal with terrible difficulties for now. That was part of talkings from Wissp that Mao took as hopeful that Wissp also sympathetics to OP.

[Stormpeaks]

Mao did not say Stormpeaks was ignorants. Mao said Stormpeaks not listening to Wissp. Wissp talkings about "TEMPORARY" fix. This indicates Wissp may be amenables to QOL changes down the line but that maybe Wissp understands is nots gonna happen soon. Stormpeaks should also be understandings that. Changes don't seem to be made quickly with this company. In meantime, OP CAN use current game features to deal with terrible difficulties for now. That was part of talkings from Wisp that Mao took as hopeful that Wissp also sympathetics to OP.

The post I quoted earlier was not them being sympathetic, they were dismissive.

[Atelier-Bagur]

"Does Stormpeaks think Devs can just snap fingers and has instant new solution created?"
Which, no, that wasn't what Stormpeaks was talking about. And even if it was Temporary like you yourself said, there are caveats to it.

Also, note how I always say "you all", "you guys"? It wasn't directed only at you, Mao. It was in general, for people going out of their way to throw dumb quips at OP like that. And if I made the mistake of assuming you were involved, then I'm sorry. But also understand that the sequence of events really made it look like you were calling Stormpeaks out for being ignorant, when really Stormpeaks was just responding to someone being obtuse.

How about people still can be called out that they need to go out and touch grass.....AND still ask having this be an added feature. I rather do that.