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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Got stuck in the 3rd Nier raid yesterday and people were dying non stop. It took about 50 minutes, I ended up with a headache because of the whiteness and eye stress and it wasn’t fun. I only stayed because roulette was providing me with the last 120 tomes I needed for the Manderville weapon upgrade and I had done all other roulettes. I am never unlocking this raid on my alts (I don’t mind the first 2 and the glamour gear they drop). Reward for that specific raid is not worth the trouble. I would have gladly taken CT over that one.
    Congrats, you just found out why people ilvl scum and will continue to do so until CBU3 properly incentivizes not doing it.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Player RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Congrats, you just found out why people ilvl scum and will continue to do so until CBU3 properly incentivizes not doing it.
    Well... taking LotA as an example... I think the highest ilvl gear in game was ilvl 90 tomestone gear when that was added. Pretty sure I remember people wearing Darklight gear into it wanting the ilvl 80 gear for actual progression. So sync that down to ilvl 90 and watch the carnival of carnage become a symphony of slaughter when ppl ignore mechanics like trying to burn the last boss down before the 2nd flare goes off, letting the giant run amok on behemoth, or probably the best of all... the skeletons between Zombie Dragon phases lol.
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    Toutatis's Avatar
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    Marshmallow Puff
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    Excalibur
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    Warrior Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Congrats, you just found out why people ilvl scum and will continue to do so until CBU3 properly incentivizes not doing it.
    I agree with other posters that iLvl cheese is probably not that much of an issue. The odds are in favour of CT anyway. The other raids are locked behind the completion of the respective expansion (and so is tome gear) regardless of level, they are optional and they require a lot of time and running around to unlock them. As for CT, they are mandatory, people may have to run CT for a relic quest or to level jobs between lvl 50-60. There aren’t tons of ways to get decent XP at those levels and there are fewer roulettes.

    Anyway, incentives or not, I am not unlocking the third Nier raid on any alt. That thing not only is too long, it gives me a headache every single time due to its visuals. Unfortunately, it pops regularly on my DC (I then abandon it but I really wanted the tomes this time).

    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    . They could just remove alliance raid roulette then no more complaints about it. Then just do what I do queue for raids you want to run.
    that would require 24 people deciding to queue for the same raid at the same time as there would be no people to fill for whatever is requested. Roulette is for that: fill groups where needed. People would complain that they can never run alliance raids unless they use PF.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 03-13-2023 at 03:55 PM.