SE, no effort anywhere lately.

[DPZ2]

Well then it's a good thing you can solo it, because nobody else is gonna queue. lol

Do you attempt to queue on Marilith? In that half-build "everybody created an alt or moved one of their mains for Housing Reasons" North American Data Center Realm?

Your ideas about queuing times might just be a wee bit out of whack.

[DPZ2]

Yeah but even with the amount of effort WoW has taken to provide single-player engagement, it still includes coop capability in everything. It's really exceptional with the amount of effort WoW has put in to make sure that no matter what you're doing, you can always invite a friend to join you.

My description of the first 14 years of WoW just went way over your head, didn't it.

Party sync did not exist until one of the late patches in the Battle for Azeroth expansion, 14+ years after the game was initially released. Before that, you could level with others in pretty much the same way you do in this game. Grab a high-level friend (optional), grab a quest, perform a quest, turn it in. It was designed so that anyone could perform the quest as a single-player. No extra effort involved.

[R041]

Do you attempt to queue on Marilith? In that half-build "everybody created an alt or moved one of their mains for Housing Reasons" North American Data Center Realm?

Your ideas about queuing times might just be a wee bit out of whack.

You think I can do anything on Dynamis? I CAN'T queue here. I have to DC hop to even have a chance at a queue popping for any content. I also just moved from Gilgamesh, you think POTD was popping there? lol

Here, I DC hopped to show you how alive Variant is.



It only needs 4 people from the whole DC to click that button. 4! They don't even need to be a specific class order! And it's all dungeons in 1 instance! You literally can't get more queue poppy than that as far as content goes!
I'd have a better chance at queueing for Nier, a 24-man, with a class requirement.

My description of the first 14 years of WoW just went way over your head, didn't it.

Party sync did not exist until one of the late patches in the Battle for Azeroth expansion, 14+ years after the game was initially released. Before that, you could level with others in pretty much the same way you do in this game. Grab a high-level friend (optional), grab a quest, perform a quest, turn it in. It was designed so that anyone could perform the quest as a single-player. No extra effort involved.

It's not a race of time since conception, what do you expect me to do - Wait another decade for FFXIV to finally catch up to 2023's basic gameplay standards so I can finally coop with friends?
Do all MMO's get the luxury of starting from the hypothetical year 2003?

Also no, in what world do you actually do world quests with friends in XIV? You mean Leves? From Heavensward? Or do you mean the purple glowy 'danger' that spawns 2 creatures for you, that you can sometimes get once every 10 hours in MSQ.

Or don't tell me you actually do the yellow quests.. The rewards are less than the cost of the teleport it took to get there. And good luck trying to sell any trash it gives you.
It's literally just more text dialog fluff for an already over-fluffed game. lol



WoW is in a completely different universe when it comes to questing, and especially coop. It's why we meme that it's an RPG MMO and tried to make up a different medal to give to XIV. Because it's clearly not even in that competition.

[DPZ2]

WoW is in a completely different universe when it comes to questing, and especially coop. It's why we meme that it's an RPG MMO and tried to make up a different medal to give to XIV. Because it's clearly not even in that competition.

Having earned the Loremaster title for both Horde and Alliance side before Cataclysm, and again after it got split up into zone-based titles, if you believe 'questing' is completely different, you're living in an entirely different universe.

And yes, I do all of the quests in FFXIV. It's simple enough while leveling 19 jobs, with little to no downside.

....ooooooh. You're talking about the so-called "World Quests" in WoW. The replacement for the blue "Daily Quests" when Legion came out?!? The ones that you can finish in 20 minutes without help? Soooooo much RPG!

If you desire actual Roleplay in game, you're in the wrong data center in this game.

[R041]

Having earned the Loremaster title for both Horde and Alliance side before Cataclysm, and again after it got split up into zone-based titles, if you believe 'questing' is completely different, you're living in an entirely different universe.

And yes, I do all of the quests in FFXIV. It's simple enough while leveling 19 jobs, with little to no downside.

....ooooooh. You're talking about the so-called "World Quests" in WoW. The replacement for the blue "Daily Quests" when Legion came out?!? The ones that you can finish in 20 minutes without help? Soooooo much RPG!

If you desire actual Roleplay in game, you're in the wrong data center in this game.

What are you even talking about, what does the datacenter have anything to do with content itself? I still DC hop. Also who's talking about old shit? Cataclysm was 13 years ago. lol
I'm talking about literally just any quest in the WoW world. World content as a whole.

Are you just another old WoWhead that quit 8 years ago, and now your hateful aggression for WoW feeds your aggressive love for XIV?

I've been able to coop absolutely everything in WoW from BfA+ and get this. It was fun. It was the most engaging and fun I've had in an MMO within the past 4 years. I was able to immediately play with multiple friends and explore a world. It actually felt like an RPG. I would almost say it does a better job of being an RPG MMO than XIV.

I've been playing XIV since 1.0, and I have no problem praising another game for doing something right. XIV does not do questing and world coop justice. It's just a fact. Nobody is out here praising FATE grinds and Yellow Quests.

You have to be delusional to think they're even remotely comparable these days.

XIV can be bad at stuff, and it's okay to admit that.

(Also yes, I did try some old WoW content, it was horrible. So I wouldn't suggest playing anything before BfA tbh)

[Padudu]

If you desire actual Roleplay in game, you're in the wrong data center in this game.

LMAO where did that come from?

Also a bunch of people literally DC hop to Crystal for RP, Aether for actual content. Dude even Crystal has (albeit not as big as Dynamis) slower queue times compared to Aether when it comes to content at times. Crystal's PF def has suffered a bit as a result (didn't Aether have a meme of putting "no travelers" in their parties for a bit?). Tell me, would you rather queue on Crystal or Dynamis? And why do I have a feeling you're going to say "Crystal" because the DF/PF there on Dynamis dead as hell lol

[DPZ2]

What are you even talking about, what does the datacenter have anything to do with content itself?

It's a riff on the fact that RPG has two meanings. The original meaning is found when speaking about TTRPGs => Table-top Role-Playing Games. I've been playing those for nearly 50 years now. The second meaning is found in the use of RPG when you are talking about video games. Then there is the combination, usually termed 'RP' (role-playing) in this game, where you play your concept out within the confines of the actual game. I assume you don't engage in 'RP' if that went over your head.

Are you just another old WoWhead that quit 8 years ago, and now your hateful aggression for WoW feeds your aggressive love for XIV?

No, I'm another old "WoWhead" (what the heck does that even mean, except as a label for hate??) that quit 5 years ago, after playing both FFXIV and WoW concurrently for 4 years. No hateful aggression intended. I just don't believe that WoW deserves praise for finally (after 14 years) incorporating a Player Sync in game. That feature came out over 15 years ago in other MMOs. Oh yeah, did I mention that I've played any number of MMORPGs concurrently over the last 15 years?

I've been able to coop absolutely everything in WoW from BfA+ and get this. It was fun.

Hurray for you. I stopped having "fun" in WoW during BfA. Individual tastes and whatnot.

I would almost say it does a better job of being an RPG MMO than XIV.

As in all things, your attitude is subjective, and does not have to be widely praised by anyone playing any other game.

My own thoughts do not have to be shared by you. At all. After all, if you're having fun in WoW, and I'm having fun in FFXIV, what does it matter that we don't consider the other game to be all that fun or innovative or whatnot.

[R041]

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You're just babbling at this point. The 'RPG MMO' term is a meme that was coined during Shadowbringers and has been parroted as the main difference between XIV and other MMOs to date. It went way over your head apparently. I play PnP RPGs, and I don't ERP. That discussion just doesn't fit here and you're being weird for trying to embed them into the conversation.

Also great, you're mad that WoW didn't have a feature until recently, and I'm enjoying it in the present. Meanwhile XIV doesn't have that feature at all. I don't see why I'm not allowed to be upset at that, let alone the fact that the world itself is dull and has no reason to do any quest, or coop for 95% of the game.

I don't care that you're having fun in XIV. Nobody's telling you not to. I'm having fun in XIV, WoW, other games in general. This isn't WoW good XIV bad. It's understanding that some things are suffering and lack love from CBU:III.

Just stop engaging in conversation with me, because that's what I'm gonna do with you now. lol

[Y2K21]

(Also yes, I did try some old WoW content, it was horrible. So I wouldn't suggest playing anything before BfA tbh)

Wait, you dont like Wrath, Mists, or Legion?

Now you have gone too far.

[R041]

Wait, you dont like Wrath, Mists, or Legion?

Now you have gone too far.

I got lost in elf town, they kept me captive and it made me want to the burn the damn tree down myself. Some old ass ghost told me to eat ass then glitched me in a cave. Then I found some big ass floating city, only to find out there's more than 1 of the same big ass floating city that look identical, and didn't know which big ass floating city I was supposed to be in. So I hopped on some random ass bird and ended up a million miles away. 1-shot some random dude on accident, he came back and started talking shit in gibberish. So I 1-shot him again. Then some old dude told me I needed to save the universe or something, and I ended up in Diablo 3.

Was a fun day. Would do again. 10/10.