SE, no effort anywhere lately.

[R041]

You can blame Blizzard for that energy ... WoW has, until recently, been decidedly a single player game with endgame raids and non-mandatory dungeons.

Lots of single player content: King of the Auction House, Master Crafter, What's My Glamour, Gathering for Geeks, I Defeated Illidan (By Myself), etc. Not to forget Kill All the LowLevel Mobs for Reputation and Gotta Collect 'Em All.

Anyone who plays any modern (circa 2004 or later) MMORPG expecting to hold hands with their brothers and sisters throughout the gameplay is going to be sadly disappointed.

Yeah but even with the amount of effort WoW has taken to provide single-player engagement, it still includes coop capability in everything. It's really exceptional with the amount of effort WoW has put in to make sure that no matter what you're doing, you can always invite a friend to join you.

That's just not even the case in FFXIV - You'd imagine that they'd AT LEAST allow you to Duty Support coop, or farm some rocks in Island Sanctuary together. But nope. It's all or nothing.

[TomsYoungerBro]

Yeah but even with the amount of effort WoW has taken to provide single-player engagement, it still includes coop capability in everything. It's really exceptional with the amount of effort WoW has put in to make sure that no matter what you're doing, you can always invite a friend to join you.

That's just not even the case in FFXIV - You'd imagine that they'd AT LEAST allow you to Duty Support coop, or farm some rocks in Island Sanctuary together. But nope. It's all or nothing.

Don't forget Crystalline conflict in that list XD

[IkaraGreydancer]

Those are lousy examples, Variant dungeons are DOA content (dead on arrival), PVP is not even supported enough to filter out cheaters, AP is pure vanity, 2 ultimates is standard from SB not a notable feature of EW, and would hardly call island sanctuary reflective of the core content. Which so far EW has nothing new and regressed, cutting back

I don't get why so many lie on these forums. For content that's apparently DOA everyone I know n their mother has done or is doing it. I've played pvp HEAVY since the revamp (you know the one that came with EW) as has my fc and have never seen or heard of others encountering cheating. Not saying it doesn't exist, I'm saying it's not as widespread as you make it seem. 2 Ultimates is standard from SB...yet ShB didn't have it so that means we did indeed get more as we have 2 in EW. That is the fact of the matter. IS is entirely new content as well. Some love it some hate it.

So to say EW has nothing new is a complete and utter lie. Dislike what you want as is your right but lets stop the bs to try n make a point.

[TomsYoungerBro]

2 Ultimates is standard from SB...yet ShB didn't have it so that means we did indeed get more as we have 2 in EW.

Considering they have been working on Dragonsong since ShB and just kept delaying it, think its fair for both to kinda split ownership of it. But you keep using those technicalities to try to prove some point or whatever

[R041]

I don't get why so many lie on these forums. For content that's apparently DOA everyone I know n their mother has done or is doing it.

You still doing Variant?

[IkaraGreydancer]

You still doing Variant?

I get you're trying to clown on me but I play games for fun. I like going in there and testing various classes. Crazy concept ik.

And if you read before commenting I said has done or is doing, not just is doing. DOA content is content no one is touching on release not content everyone is doing.

Also Tom's it's not a technicality, it's what it is. Don't matter what your opinion is in that front

[poptarts12]

I get you're trying to clown on me but I play games for fun. I like going in there and testing various classes. Crazy concept ik.

And if you read before commenting I said has done or is doing, not just is doing. DOA content is content no one is touching on release not content everyone is doing

So in other words, you're not doing variant.

[R041]

I get you're trying to clown on me but I play games for fun. I like going in there and testing various classes. Crazy concept ik.

And if you read before commenting I said has done or is doing, not just is doing. DOA content is content no one is touching on release not content everyone is doing

That's fine I'm not really trying to be a jerk - It was mostly funny so sorry if it came off that way. But just because you haven't done the content yet doesn't mean the community is still doing it. That's like saying you still have POTD to do. You can do POTD. But it's still considered dead content in 2023.

[IkaraGreydancer]

That's fine I'm not really trying to be a jerk - It was mostly funny so sorry if it came off that way. But just because you haven't done the content yet doesn't mean the community is still doing it. That's like saying you still have POTD to do. You can do POTD. But it's still considered dead content in 2023.

Where did I say I haven't done the content yet? Are you reading? I literally said I actively do it but alright

[R041]

Where did I say I haven't done the content yet? Are you reading? I literally said I actively do it but alright

Well then it's a good thing you can solo it, because nobody else is gonna queue. lol