Change/Remove Lalafell "Lifter"...

[OziAuros]

I don't disagree with that, but I do feel you somewhat forfeit your ability to be upset about random people being on your property when you decide to make it a public venue. Now obviously that doesn't mean you should let anarchy reign or anything like that, but to ask someone to leave based solely on their race making someone(s) uncomfortable who never interacted with you? I take issue with that. Like I said, if they kept pressing the issue I would have left, but I decided to see how the situation played out. I know that was a risk, but I wanted it to be known, in a polite manner, that I didn't appreciate being asked to leave for what I felt was a poor reason.

A venue invites people over for a specific purpose. They're public in the same way that a real life venue is public, and surprise, the same objections to that kind of behavior applies. If you're asked to leave a Wendy's, even if you're in the middle of eating your McWhopper, you should go. What their reasoning is, or what you think their reasoning is, does not matter. Refusing on the grounds of MUH RIGHTS is super wrong.

[Tsurayu]

A venue invites people over for a specific purpose. They're public in the same way that a real life venue is public, and surprise, the same objections to that kind of behavior applies. If you're asked to leave a Wendy's, even if you're in the middle of eating your McWhopper, you should go. What their reasoning is, or what you think their reasoning is, does not matter. Refusing on the grounds of MUH RIGHTS is super wrong.

But we've seen examples of that in real life where it did matter and business have even been fined for their behavior towards customers. That's an extreme example and isn't really analogous with an in-game venue, but the point is it's not necessarily okay to simply ask someone to leave.

I will fully admit in my particular scenario, if the situation had escalated I would have been in the wrong. 100%. I know that, and that's why I knew I was taking a risk by responding the way I did, but I felt it was worth taking. And like I've said, if they would have pressed the issue I would have left knowing full well the eventual outcome would have been me getting reported and a GM would have sided with the venue in this situation. But I willing chose to see how the situation played out knowing that the person who DMd me asked me kindly to leave rather than harass me, and I responded to them civilly, in kind, rather than throwing a temper tantrum. I went about my business the rest of that evening chatting with my friends and dancing and the situation, if you want to call it that, never escalated. That's the way it should have been from the get-go.