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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I too enjoy being able to go back and do the content in 4 years without obstruction because the content is not reliant on a lot of players presently doing it to be completeable.
    No wonder we have such a lack of ideas recently. Y'all are always so focused in being able to do stuff solo above everything else, it's kinda ridiculous how you still prefer to play a MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    No wonder we have such a lack of ideas recently. Y'all are always so focused in being able to do stuff solo above everything else, it's kinda ridiculous how you still prefer to play a MMO.
    Where in my post did I say anything about solo? I want the content future proofed so it doesn't have to be the new fancy thing of the month in order to actually do it. If that's solo or with a party I do not care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    No wonder we have such a lack of ideas recently. Y'all are always so focused in being able to do stuff solo above everything else, it's kinda ridiculous how you still prefer to play a MMO.
    There's a reason MMOs have been in decline. The genre will probably never die, but a lot of people have gone back to preferring things they can do solo while having the option of bringing other people along. This is one (but far from the only) reason you'll find so many people that don't bother to engage with group content in FFXIV - they scratch that particular itch with a Souls or a Monster Hunter. Even Blizzard, the train wreck they are, has noticed the trend and (after hilarious amounts of resistance) begun providing a plethora of options for solo-focused players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melorie View Post
    No wonder we have such a lack of ideas recently. Y'all are always so focused in being able to do stuff solo above everything else, it's kinda ridiculous how you still prefer to play a MMO.
    A lot of people just simply like being part of a world in the grander scheme, regardless of whether they elect to partake in the content or the game in a grouped or solo manner.

    However, frankly speaking, Xirean is not wrong. Parts of Bozjan Southern Front were so woefully poorly future proofed that they actually needed to go back and hotfix in better rewards, just so people could actually progress their relic. e.g.,

    FINAL FANTASY XIV Hotfixes (Feb. 15, 2021)
    ・ The number of loathsome memories of the dying obtained upon completion of the critical engagement “The Battle of Castrum Lacus Litore” in the Bozjan southern front has been increased from 1 to 5.
    ・ The maximum number of Bozjan coins that can be obtained from personal spoils in the critical engagement “The Battle of Castrum Lacus Litore” in the Bozjan southern front has been increased from 26 to 100.
    ・ Completion of the critical engagement “The Battle of Castrum Lacus Litore” in the Bozjan southern front will now reward mettle and Allagan tomestones of revelation or experience points.
    Neither of these is anything to gawk at or weren't at the time. Sadly, content such as exploratory content always has this possibility. Even more sadly, is frankly, if you were behind or playing catch-up with the relics on Shadowbringers, then it was a fairly abysmal experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Neither of these is anything to gawk at or weren't at the time. Sadly, content such as exploratory content always has this possibility. Even more sadly, is frankly, if you were behind or playing catch-up with the relics on Shadowbringers, then it was a fairly abysmal experience.
    There is no denying Bozja's future proofing was poorly thought out. Nevertheless, the solution would be to buff it to compensate or implement a power scaling balance. They would later attempt to do so but not anywhere near strong enough to make palatable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    There is no denying Bozja's future proofing was poorly thought out. Nevertheless, the solution would be to buff it to compensate or implement a power scaling balance. They would later attempt to do so but not anywhere near strong enough to make palatable.
    That's always the risk they play when they attempt to confine a relic to a particular subset of content, or as intertwined to the degree that Resistance weapons were to the Bozjan Southern Front.

    There are a good dozen things they can do for the content, but they should not need to hotfix in better rewards for a piece of content in the first place, frankly speaking. I don't know how the Delubrum Reginae experience is now, but last I attempted that back in Nov~ time. I had 2 other people after a 15-minute capped queue and took a further 50 minutes complete, not that I mind this very much, but it doesn't exactly strike me as the most compelling piece of gameplay, contrary to what people might want to elude to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    That's always the risk they play when they attempt to confine a relic to a particular subset of content, or as intertwined to the degree that Resistance weapons were to the Bozjan Southern Front.

    There are a good dozen things they can do for the content, but they should not need to hotfix in better rewards for a piece of content in the first place, frankly speaking. I don't know how the Delubrum Reginae experience is now, but last I attempted that back in Nov~ time. I had 2 other people after a 15-minute capped queue and took a further 50 minutes complete, not that I mind this very much, but it doesn't exactly strike me as the most compelling piece of gameplay, contrary to what people might want to elude to.
    Pretty much anytime you require a level synced content it will hurt future proofing because people want to gain power as they level up, not lose it.

    Its why people hate the CT raids or getting stuck in Sastasha on leveling roulette.
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