A game for 2 year olds.

[AzanathEU]

I am more in awe in what illustrious social circles the OP moves around where 2 year olds can operate a PC with peripherie or a Playstation while also being able to read old inspired english, as well as grasp abstract concepts like comedy, irony etc. Truely marvelous indeed.

[Greyhawk]

I am more in awe in what illustrious social circles the OP moves around where 2 year olds can operate a PC with peripherie or a Playstation while also being able to read old inspired english, as well as grasp abstract concepts like comedy, irony etc. Truely marvelous indeed.

I don't think you quite grasped the overly abundant stress OP was making about how "cutesy" the entire line is getting. I think the exaggeration was (albeit obvious) intended. I tend to agree, but not so far as the post was taken. However, I can see a time for this as we are now in the story-line at a lull point with all of the tragedy OP is looking for and at a period of rest. I think SE's intentions are for the Warrior of Light to get to kick back and relax. But where I agree with the OP is in different form - I think they need to be careful that this method doesn't cringe its way into parts where it *should be* a bit more serious in the story.

[VelKallor]

The problem is is that there is too much fun stuff and too little tragedy

Mate, I guarantee you, when the next part of the MSQ hits, when we will find ourselves up to our proverbial necks in trouble and danger, there will be more than enough tragedy to get you second and third helpings plus salad.

If what i think is going to happen comes to pass, we are ALL going to look back on this small interregnum and be grateful we had this chance at a respite. I dont know WHAT is coming, but I am absolutely certain that we are building up to an event that MAY make the Calamity look tame.

Yoshi has said we are headed for what he called " a massive world changing event"..if you want tragedy and pain, grab a plate and get in line.

100% of which is directed at antagonistic forces such as garleans.

*Takes deep breath, counts to ten, then does so a second time )

There was a man, close to a century ago, who was persecuted, one of the greatest minds of the last two centuries, who barely escaped with his life, who then spent the rest of that war in exile whilst he knew his own people were in the process of being obliterated....one of his favourite pastimes was to ask for and receive letters from children.

What was his name? Albert Einstein.

A Garlean child has no idea of what is going on outside, doesnt understand the war, doesnt understand why his home is now in ruins...doesnt know why so many of his family and friends will never be seen again..but he has been told of some magical rabbits who live on the moon, a place he has never seen...and the child writes to them, almost in a mystical wondering tone..or a refugee, lost, terrified, displaced, his own family probably dead or missing...looking for hope...for ANY reassurance that he can look to tomorrow..that all is not lost.

"Even here, I am not alone"

If you cant, or wont understand how and why someone would write that from the wreckage of his home city, looking, searching for ANYTHING that wont tell him "Forget it, its all over you have nothing and no one left"....I cant help you.

[AzanathEU]

I don't think you quite grasped the overly abundant stress OP was making about how "cutesy" the entire line is getting. I think the exaggeration was (albeit obvious) intended. I tend to agree, but not so far as the post was taken. However, I can see a time for this as we are now in the story-line at a lull point with all of the tragedy OP is looking for and at a period of rest. I think SE's intentions are for the Warrior of Light to get to kick back and relax. But where I agree with the OP is in different form - I think they need to be careful that this method doesn't cringe its way into parts where it *should be* a bit more serious in the story.

That i can totally see and agree. It IS just the absurd amount of exaggeration people tend to use to carry an argument along. Hence i decided IT would be fun to reply in a similar way ;-)

[SassyAssassin]

Wasn’t it for three year olds back then? Now its for two?
Whats next?
For one year olds and those who haven’t left their dad’s yet?

[CStrife912]

Mate, I guarantee you, when the next part of the MSQ hits, when we will find ourselves up to our proverbial necks in trouble and danger, there will be more than enough tragedy to get you second and third helpings plus salad.

If what i think is going to happen comes to pass, we are ALL going to look back on this small interregnum and be grateful we had this chance at a respite. I dont know WHAT is coming, but I am absolutely certain that we are building up to an event that MAY make the Calamity look tame.

Yoshi has said we are headed for what he called " a massive world changing event"..if you want tragedy and pain, grab a plate and get in line.



*Takes deep breath, counts to ten, then does so a second time )

There was a man, close to a century ago, who was persecuted, one of the greatest minds of the last two centuries, who barely escaped with his life, who then spent the rest of that war in exile whilst he knew his own people were in the process of being obliterated....one of his favourite pastimes was to ask for and receive letters from children.

What was his name? Albert Einstein.

A Garlean child has no idea of what is going on outside, doesnt understand the war, doesnt understand why his home is now in ruins...doesnt know why so many of his family and friends will never be seen again..but he has been told of some magical rabbits who live on the moon, a place he has never seen...and the child writes to them, almost in a mystical wondering tone..or a refugee, lost, terrified, displaced, his own family probably dead or missing...looking for hope...for ANY reassurance that he can look to tomorrow..that all is not lost.

"Even here, I am not alone"

If you cant, or wont understand how and why someone would write that from the wreckage of his home city, looking, searching for ANYTHING that wont tell him "Forget it, its all over you have nothing and no one left"....I cant help you.

I really like this breakdown actually, way more into the knowledge of society and the games lore then I am. I need to start paying more attention to the inner workings but you are right I do believe something big will happen or something/someone needs to have a tragic ending to give some needed levity to the whole situation.

[Denhith]

Not true, actually. I liked the Rubicante backstory quest in 6.3, it was very touching.



The problem is is that there is too much fun stuff and too little tragedy...

Tell me you're new to the game without telling me you're new to the game.

*Looks at join date. Yeah, makes sense.

[TaleraRistain]

Welcome to Final Fantasy, mate. Series has been like this for its entire existence. Not just this game, but the series as a whole. If you've only played like XV or VIIR or something, go play the older games and you'll see.

[BRVV]

A few people are stuck on the exaggerated "2 year old" statement, at least 2 people believe it is all justified because in their head cannon 7.0 will be dark (as "dark" as 6.0?)... ok i guess.

The little bunnies are definately too much. Why again are they basically 2 tribes? With the robots we talked to a bunny the whole time... i also hated the Omicron for their story. Your family was slaughtered in war? Here have a desert with your enemy!

Thankfully the new tribe is there however. Dancing with the little bunnies! ^^
I actually enjoy the story again because to me it is finally at "The room" level of bad. Cringefest gallore. I don't need sitcoms or anything like that, i have the game. At least i finally understood that i should get my drama stories from other sources. Like many said: Judge the game by what it is, not what you want it to be

[EgoCollective]

I do believe that what I like to refer to as 'narrative whiplash' has always been somewhat prevalent in the story and yet, has always been (and rightly so) called out as something that was jarring and somewhat off putting at the time. It has, in my memory (perhaps not on these forums but in other mediums) always been pointed out as odd, or as an issue with pacing (This has always been historically the case with ARR, SB, and to a lesser extent HW).

Something , however, seemed to have switched with ShB and EW wherein criticisms such as these were suddenly seen as antithetical to any form of conversation and 'harmful' as a whole, and either ridiculed or straw manned out of existence without any further consideration.

The simple matter is that Endwalker (and yes, Shadowbringers) do suffer from unfortunate issues with pacing, and 'narrative whiplash' whereby the serious, and the heavy hearted will be, at times unforgivably and haphazardly, splashed with a generous helping of light hearted and ultimately ill timed and poor attempts at cutesy humor in order to lift a mood.

Some situations, and some plights (Such as the above mentioned refugee and child) should not be handled in this fashion by the narrative, mostly because they have not been given ample time in the main story or side quests to be handled in a way that seems more thematically appropriate with the aftermath of the Final Days. Perhaps if that was done this would be seen as less egregious.

And the Tweetingway debacle was needless cringe. Maybe I dislike fun, but I do believe that the recent stint of Community Management rationale by which brands treat their consumers like children is belittling and patronizing. Make a new account for it, or incorporate it elsewhere if it's something you want to do, or find another avenue. (ie: Mudchute/Mogchute farm, which was a cute diversion done in its own area (on twitch) and donated to a good cause.). Mileage can and will vary on this, but definitely not my cup of tea.