SE, no effort anywhere lately.

[Zebraoracle]

Almost everyone on the WoW forums disagrees with you. In fact, they spend most of their time praising this game while dissing their own game when it comes to the story and the writing.

Your opinion is just that. Your opinion. It is not objective. It is subjective. Just like everyone else's.

A couple of you are misunderstanding him. He's not saying WoW's story is better than 14's, no sane person would ever do that lol.

He's saying the way WoW's story and questing is handled and structured is more engaging as a video game than 14's. 14's story is good, despite its issues, but the way the story is handled from a gameplay perspective is not good. That's his point.

[drtasteyummy]

A couple of you are misunderstanding him. He's not saying WoW's story is better than 14's, no sane person would ever do that lol.

He's saying the way WoW's story and questing is handled and structured is more engaging as a video game than 14's. 14's story is good, despite its issues, but the way the story is handled from a gameplay perspective is not good. That's his point.

Don't really want to argue against that but on the flipside you have to be honest like 90% of the WoW community doesn't even know what the story is about they just have a surface level guess of what they're doing. Protect some people here, fix something there, fight dragon here, fight old god there, wrestle illidan, kick arthas off his throne. I bet if it's not for WC3 people wouldn't even know who Illidan is lol.

[Lium]

A couple of you are misunderstanding him. He's not saying WoW's story is better than 14's, no sane person would ever do that lol.

He's saying the way WoW's story and questing is handled and structured is more engaging as a video game than 14's. 14's story is good, despite its issues, but the way the story is handled from a gameplay perspective is not good. That's his point.

That's still just his/her opinion. I played WoW from May 2005 up till Legion. I switched to FFXIV full time as my main game around 2017. So to me, even from a gameplay perspective, I much prefer the way FFXIV does it. But you and others may disagree with that.

I tried WoW on a couple of free weekends that I had when Blizzard was trying to get back a lot of the former players they lost when they were (truly) hemorrhaging players. The questing and leveling as they are today is - how can I phrase this nicely - an afterthought. You are either dumped into a starting island for new players, or can pick which expansion to level up in if you are a returning player.

In either case, questing and leveling goes by in the blink of an eye. The game tries to get you to the current expansion as fast as possible while completely ignoring everything else that came before it. It is very much a hollow experience. And you don't even really learn your class or the lore of the world or anything. The game goes by so fast.

This is actually a major source of complaints in the WoW community from what I can tell. Most players seem to want a revamp of the questing and leveling system in WoW because it is not new player friendly and offers such an empty experience.

But again, that's just my opinion and the opinions of many on the WoW forums. Some, like the poster I originally quoted, prefer WoW's method.

[Y2K21]

I tried WoW on a couple of free weekends that I had when Blizzard was trying to get back a lot of the former players they lost when they were (truly) hemorrhaging players. The questing and leveling as they are today is - how can I phrase this nicely - an afterthought. You are either dumped into a starting island for new players, or can pick which expansion to level up in if you are a returning player.

In either case, questing and leveling goes by in the blink of an eye. The game tries to get you to the current expansion as fast as possible while completely ignoring everything else that came before it. It is very much a hollow experience. And you don't even really learn your class or the lore of the world or anything. The game goes by so fast.

This is actually a major source of complaints in the WoW community from what I can tell. Most players seem to want a revamp of the questing and leveling system in WoW because it is not new player friendly and offers such an empty experience.

I hate to tell you but - Chromie Time and the new starter experience were what people asked for since Legion/BFA. Leveling got to the point where it was just a barrier for new players to level through 100 to 110 levels while not being able to fully experience an expac's full story because leveling xp would drop off after you leveled out of the expansion. There is no hard locking in progression like in FF14 - so once you reach the expansions cap level, you had to move to the next zones to level up.

Do you slow leveling down to fit the story? Well, if you do that - then you kill alts and alt leveling. You make leveling even a larger cliff to climb, and chase away new players with now nine expansions worth of story content they have to swim through.

What Blizzard did was make a streamlined version of level so that a new player could experience the most current story necessary (BFA, Shadowlands has no impact at this point in time really) while making it faster for people to alt level and continue to enjoy the game. On top of that, starting experience was stuck in Cata story (13 years old) or TBC story (16 years old) that no longer has relevance to the plot of today.