Can something be done about alliance raids?

[Raven2014]

This is a cautionary take. Remember that the playerbase is hundreds of thousands of people, and it's only a minutely small % that actually use the forums (and by its nature, those few are the ones most likely to be complaining about something). Ask virtually any question, and you will have a "large number of people" taking any side you look at simply because of how large the playerbase itself is. These forums represent the smallest iota of a % of that community, and topics appearing here aren't necessarily representative of anything regarding the playerbase in general.

Except the person you're replying to are "not" using the forum as the base of the argument. What's going on in the game provide pretty much a lopsided evidence in favor of CT. The playerbase "hate" the other raids, otherwise they would have been unlocked and queue more often.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Except the person you're replying to are "not" using the forum as the base of the argument. What's going on in the game provide pretty much a lopsided evidence in favor of CT. The playerbase "hate" the other raids, otherwise they would have been unlocked and queue more often.

It's not that players hate the other raids. It's certain people skewing the roulette to get the easiest raids due to how overtuned the ilvl is on them. When was the last time you actually saw ppl do mechanics in Labrynth of the Ancients?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Except the person you're replying to are "not" using the forum as the base of the argument. What's going on in the game provide pretty much a lopsided evidence in favor of CT. The playerbase "hate" the other raids, otherwise they would have been unlocked and queue more often.

I dont think they are "Hated" but I can definitely say...some of them just take to freaking long.
Some of us just wanna get in and get out as soon as possible so we can do other things. Some of us are literally limited on gaming time.

[R041]

Surrounded by people that don't even want to play the game, they just want their roulette exp.

So when we ask for actual fun content, you all freak the hell out because it'll be a nuisance to actually play and be engaged by something for once.

Also can't ask for better rewards, because that'll tempt the demons in you to play 24/7 or something.

[Raven2014]

Surrounded by people that don't even want to play the game, they just want their roulette exp.

idk, I certainly "play". Just because I don't play the content you want doesn't mean I'm not "playing". I don't think it's up you to decide getting EXP is not qualified as playing.

So when we ask for actual fun content, you all freak the hell out because it'll be a nuisance to actually play and be engaged by something for once.

Fun is subjective, I have more fun by spending 15min in CT follow by another 15-20 min in Frontline. For me that's more fun than spending 30-40 min in a Ivalice or Nier raid. Again, not up to you to decide what is fun for me

Also I play savage and ultimate ... so reach just gonna reach. Like ... seriously, the way some people their argument in this thread it's like because they see someone take it easy on the weekend, they hyperbolic it into that person must be a lazy bump who never interest in doing anything worthwhile in the whole week.

[R041]

Fun is subjective, I have more fun by spending 15min in CT follow by another 15-20 min in Frontline. For me that's more fun than spending 30-40 min in a Ivalice or Nier raid. Again, not up to you to decide what is fun for me

Also I play savage and ultimate ... so reach just gonna reach. Like ... seriously, the way some people their argument in this thread it's like because they see someone take it easy on the weekend, they hyperbolic it into that person must be a lazy bump who never interest in doing anything worthwhile in the whole week.

I mean...you kinda HAVE to play the game in order to get that exp and level up.
How fast and rewarding the content is, is a different argument...kind of like saying how someone like me is on a Limited Gaming Schedule, because I have other things going on in my life (Job, sleep, Social life, Family, etc)

I don't really blame either of you, but there definitely is something to be said about how SE just dumps all of their content into a roulette cycle every expansion that continues to incentivize only re-running ARR content over and over no matter what new content is pushed into it. They're trashing their own content every expansion cycle.

It's been 10 years, I'm sick of running the same shit over and over. If that content were even a LITTLE bit fun then sure, but it's not. We see it as the most rewarding thing because the only thing SE ever gives us for a reward in this game is our Time vs EXP (and Materia..), so there's not much to pick from there when they also continue to neglect the power creep in ilvl.

You also bring up that you're doing Ultimate, so that's kinda where we're at here with the content gap right? We have 2 types of playstyles that we've catered to:

1. Bleeding Edge that spend their time doing Savage and Ultimates
2. Limsa/House AFKers

Neither of those want their average time wasted. And I'd argue that Savage isn't actually being catered to.. Just strung along.

We want the 3rd playstyle again, the Mid-Core, the casuals that still enjoy difficult and rewarding content but don't want to bash their heads against Ultimate or AFK. At least with Eureka and Bozja it kinda scratched that itch, but this expac is just.. So bad for us, there's 0 incentive to do anything anymore and we don't even have the luxury of queueing for 'Fun' raids because it's just a bunch of CT for Exp.

It's like the only fun Mid-Core players are allowed to have is within the first 2 months of each expansion, and the first week of each major patch.

So again, I don't blame you - I'm just salty in general.

[Raven2014]

Again, lot of assumption ...

If that content were even a LITTLE bit fun then sure, but it's not.

Just because you don't have fun doesn't mean other don't.

You also bring up that you're doing Ultimate, so that's kinda where we're at here with the content gap right?

No.

We have 2 types of playstyles that we've catered to:

Just because that how you classify it doesn't mean that how other classify it.

And I'd argue that Savage isn't actually being catered to.. Just strung along.

Don't even know what you're saying here. So I just gonna say: I'm very happy and enjoy the time I spent in savage, enough that I raid in 4 char. Last tier I had 2 characters that had every glam from the raid.

We want the 3rd playstyle again, the Mid-Core, the casuals that still enjoy difficult and rewarding content but don't want to bash their heads against Ultimate or AFK.
It's like the only fun Mid-Core players are allowed to have is within the first 2 months of each expansion, and the first week of each major patch.

And there is, probably more than 3. From Expert roulette to Ultimate there are a tone of content spread in between. If casual and hardcore are the two end point, the game certainly have a tone of thing in between those no matter how you want to classify it.

I'm just salty in general.

Now this is something I can respect.

There is nothing wrong with simply state what you want because ... it's just what you want. I hope more people realize that it's perfectly ok to simply state what they desire without the need of hiding behind pretenses of majority or window-dressing as if it's for a greater cause.

I disagree with pretty much every thing you said in this post, but I still gave you a like for. Keep fighting the good fight.

[Remolia]

I have more fun by spending 15min in CT

I have more fun by sweeping floor in lumsa for 30 min, than by loosing my last brain cells in CT for 10 min.

[Raven2014]

I have more fun by sweeping floor in lumsa for 30 min, than by loosing my last brain cells in CT for 10 min.

That's why I spend 10min in CT and you spend 30min sweeping the floor in Limsa. We do we, I'm certainly not complaining about people sweeping floor in Limsa.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Surrounded by people that don't even want to play the game, they just want their roulette exp.

So when we ask for actual fun content, you all freak the hell out because it'll be a nuisance to actually play and be engaged by something for once.

Also can't ask for better rewards, because that'll tempt the demons in you to play 24/7 or something.

I mean...you kinda HAVE to play the game in order to get that exp and level up.
How fast and rewarding the content is, is a different argument...kind of like saying how someone like me is on a Limited Gaming Schedule, because I have other things going on in my life (Job, sleep, Social life, Family, etc)

Fun is subjective, I have more fun by spending 15min in CT follow by another 15-20 min in Frontline. For me that's more fun than spending 30-40 min in a Ivalice or Nier raid. Again, not up to you to decide what is fun for me

Like ... seriously, the way some people their argument in this thread it's like because they see someone take it easy on the weekend, they hyperbolic it into that person must be a lazy bump who never interest in doing anything worthwhile in the whole week.

I agree.
And this is a good example thats a better use of my time. Id love to do the other raids, but they take a while. Meanwhile I can squeeze in more gametime doing Crystal Tower and Frontlines.