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    ty_taurus's Avatar
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    and that if you only do MSQ and never touch Extremes, Savages, Ultimates, Deep Dungeons, or basically any other non-MSQ content, you don't NEED to play at a high level so you could ignore those extra abilities if you just...don't clear any content. (They seem to think this is a good argument in favor for some reason...)
    The only content that would really demand optimal performance would be Savage and Ultimate. Deep Dungeons absolutely do not ask for optimization from players, at least not on their tools. If you're solo-climbing the high floors, use of the environment and pomanders is what matters. AST can solo PoTD and have time to spare. It's a nightmare and time is genuinely a concern, but how you manage your time is what's important. Extremes do have enrages, but the actual demand on performance is quite relaxed. Not dying is the real bar to clear realistically. Content that does not demand damage of you beyond Savage and Ultimate:

    The MSQ, Dungeons, Alliance Raids, Normal Raids, All your roulettes, Deep Dungeons, Blue Mage (not the blue challenge log, but that's a different ballgame anyway), Treasure Maps, Eureka, Bozja, Fates/Fate Grinding, Old Relic Weapon Grinding, The Gold Saucer, Island Sanctuary, Crafting and Gathering, Wonderous Tails, Tribal quests, Mount Farming, Hunts...

    I'm probably forgetting things, but my point is, easily 90% of the game has absolutely no concern for how high you parse, especially as a healer. Extreme content is quite lax on its expectations, and Savage also gives room for imperfection. But regardless, Savage and Ultimate are specifically catered to people who are looking for intense challenge. It's okay if that one corner of the game asks a lot more of its playerbase, especially when there's so much else to engage with.
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    Last edited by ty_taurus; 03-03-2023 at 07:05 AM.

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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I'm probably forgetting things, but my point is, easily 90% of the game has absolutely no concern for how high you parse, especially as a healer. Extreme content is quite lax on its expectations, and Savage also gives room for imperfection. But regardless, Savage and Ultimate are specifically catered to people who are looking for intense challenge. It's okay if that one corner of the game asks a lot more of its playerbase, especially when there's so much else to engage with.
    Yes but you forget, we're evil and nasty for suggesting that someone who can clear savage right now, should be unable to clear savage with our changes because they can't learn a new rotation. It's 'subtractive magic' or whatever, something about beards?
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