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  1. #41
    Player
    viion's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Sky Box
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ambuter View Post
    Buy out someone's retainer so it despawns. There you go? lol
    They dont despawn, that is another issue, i garauntee over half the retainers are all empty, because they only depop if you call them back or you go talk to them when they're empty, otherwise they just stand there using space.

    This would be a nice solution, have retainers auto despawn when empty, then you'd only have the market full of retainers actually selling things.

    Also it is bullshit, they're all full. Yeh I could go to another city and wait about 2 weeks for shit to sell or some stuff (like shards) just never do sell.

    Moving to the Menders Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Crystaliers Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Clothiers Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Masons Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Tanners Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Woodcutters Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Lower Tailors Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Tradescraft Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.

    etc...etc...
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  2. #42
    If only people didn't bitch about Ward resetting. Crashing sure but resetting cleared em out nicely.
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  3. #43
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    Sephrick's Avatar
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    Sephrick Markarius
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    They dont despawn, that is another issue, i garauntee over half the retainers are all empty, because they only depop if you call them back or you go talk to them when they're empty, otherwise they just stand there using space.

    This would be a nice solution, have retainers auto despawn when empty, then you'd only have the market full of retainers actually selling things.

    Also it is bullshit, they're all full. Yeh I could go to another city and wait about 2 weeks for shit to sell or some stuff (like shards) just never do sell.

    Moving to the Menders Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Crystaliers Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Clothiers Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Masons Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Tanners Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Woodcutters Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Lower Tailors Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.
    Moving to the Tradescraft Row.
    You cannot summon any more retainers in this area.

    etc...etc...
    What's even worse is the retainers in there with one crap item listed for 999,999,999.
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  4. #44
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    Lux_Rayna's Avatar
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    Vynce Walker
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    They dont despawn, that is another issue,
    Actually, they do. I watched my retainer despawn soon as I grabbed gil from its last sales. Thats why ppl list items for 99mil gil, so that their retainers never despawn. I actually just did that yesterday lol!


    As I said earlier, just make a bazaar. Its super easy, super quick, and sometimes you even sell things faster that way. Its even better if your prices beat ward prices.
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  5. #45
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    darkstarpoet1's Avatar
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    Darkstar Poet
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Carpenter Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    Actually, they do. I watched my retainer despawn soon as I grabbed gil from its last sales. Thats why ppl list items for 99mil gil, so that their retainers never despawn. I actually just did that yesterday lol!


    As I said earlier, just make a bazaar. Its super easy, super quick, and sometimes you even sell things faster that way. Its even better if your prices beat ward prices.
    actually they only despawn if you have sold your last item off it and hit you are finished managing. it does not despawn once a week like was stated that they were going to add.

    if your retainer is empty and you don't put up another item for sale it despawns when you are finished with it.
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    http://crystalknights.guildwork.com/

  6. #46
    Player
    viion's Avatar
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    Sky Box
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Went to Limsa,

    Wind Shards, 5 have sold since merge, Fire Shards, 3 have sold since merge lmao

    yeh.. go to another ward :O
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  7. #47
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    darkstarpoet1's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Went to Limsa,

    Wind Shards, 5 have sold since merge, Fire Shards, 3 have sold since merge lmao

    yeh.. go to another ward :O
    then you also have to look at 2 other things.

    1. were there shards up 100% of the time since merge.

    2. are the prices there just as low as the prices are in the other cities.

    if the shards are more expensive and there's not many of them up then they're not going to sell. to move the product they are going to have to either match or be below the prices in uldah or it's not going to move consistently at all. i remember when the population died and everyone moved to uldah i always went to grid to pick up my lightning shards. there was a guy there that always had stock and was always the cheapest.

    uldah is like going to walmart. you go there because in general most items are cheapest there, but if you see a tv at target you like that has a better price you will go there to get it.
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    http://crystalknights.guildwork.com/

  8. #48
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    Lilith's Avatar
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    Lilith Higoshi
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    SE, while you're at it, please show us price history when selling an item. Would save us a lot of hassle.
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    Last edited by Lilith; 06-18-2012 at 06:23 AM.

  9. #49
    Player
    viion's Avatar
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    Sky Box
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    then you also have to look at 2 other things.

    1. were there shards up 100% of the time since merge.

    2. are the prices there just as low as the prices are in the other cities.

    if the shards are more expensive and there's not many of them up then they're not going to sell. to move the product they are going to have to either match or be below the prices in uldah or it's not going to move consistently at all. i remember when the population died and everyone moved to uldah i always went to grid to pick up my lightning shards. there was a guy there that always had stock and was always the cheapest.

    uldah is like going to walmart. you go there because in general most items are cheapest there, but if you see a tv at target you like that has a better price you will go there to get it.
    Non of this is really relivant, you will never know if people having been keeping up shards (or item) for certain duration, i saw that the 5 sales history shows its not doing to good, but its also useless in a way because sometimes its 1 shard for 100g, or 54 shards for 10 gil, theres no real history just random stuff.

    But it also shows no on is selling there, no one is buying there either. I checked out a few other common items, 0 sale history on everything (materials, armors, weapons etc).
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  10. #50
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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 76
    the wards system is heavily screwed. my options are either i sell stuff in the wrong ward and pay double the tax. which if i'm selling double/triple melded items can total up to be a rather huge amount.

    or i go to a city where nothing ever sells. which would be like trying to set up a petrol station 50 miles away from the nearest road.

    now what they could do is reduce the taxes again to alleviate the impact on players who cannot use the correct wards even if they try. or just scrap the whole wards system alltogether and go to an ah.

    my retainers never sell 10 items all related to the same wards and as such it's a damn nightmare to ensure they're in the most appropriate place all the time.

    marketting should be fast and simple. at present i have to go through my retainers look what i want them to sell run to the search counter get prices run back to retainers set a sale. and keep tabs of them every now and then to ensure they're in the most suitable ward. (which at the minute is void cos i'm not going to risk even moving them out of fear of losing my slot so to speak)

    i've wanted an ah from day 1 but i have at least tried to utilise the system that exists and it fails in so many ways. even the simple fact it takes me so long to transfer items to my retainers. takes nearly 6 minutes to transfer 40-50 items.
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