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  1. #201
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    Sindele's Avatar
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    Sindele Actoria
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    Everyone has the option - you just don't want to because you think it's more costly than it's worth. Which is fine - but at some point you've got to live with the choices you make. How many multi-owners do you really think you'd shake out on Balmung, anyway? The scant handful that exist are going to be very canny and very resource-rich people who would have found a way regardless, because for everyone else it's always been far easier to go elsewhere.

    As for Dynamis, I can already see the near-guaranteed repeat of the Mateus situation on the horizon - when Dynamis' servers start filling up in 7.0 from people who get tired of 8 hour queues to get into Crystal and a wailing cry goes up that the houses are being taken up by the people who bought them after they sat around unused for months. Wasn't particularly sympathetic then, not going to be terribly sympathetic in the future. Part and parcel of moving to a popular server after it becomes popular.
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  2. #202
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    Pablomaldito's Avatar
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    Pablo Maldito
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    It's really something that people think it's okay to simply say 'just move worlds lol!' as if everyone else is as self-centered to have no social connections to the world they're in. Especially coming from those who flagrantly break the plot requirements when they could simply just play literally any other MMO that offers exactly what they want.
    Criticizing people for suggesting a world transfer to get housing while also suggesting that they transfer to an entirely different MMO to get housing - all in a single post. Impressive.
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    Last edited by Pablomaldito; 03-01-2023 at 05:35 PM.

  3. #203
    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    It's really something that people think it's okay to simply say 'just move worlds lol!' as if everyone else is as self-centered to have no social connections to the world they're in. Especially coming from those who flagrantly break the plot requirements when they could simply just play literally any other MMO that offers exactly what they want.
    "You can move to Dynamis if you really want housing or to Phantom/Sagi/Alpha/Raiden for EU if you really want housing" is not ok

    but

    "yeah just move to a different game if you like housing so much heeh xd" is okay

    man you never fail to impress with how stupid what you write is, and I say this in the nicest way possible because otherwise I'd get banned
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  4. #204
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    CatStarwind's Avatar
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    Drufel Starwind
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablomaldito View Post
    Criticizing people for suggesting a world transfer to get housing while also suggesting that they transfer to an entirely different MMO to get housing - all in a single post. Impressive.
    That was rather the point yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    "You can move to Dynamis if you really want housing or to Phantom/Sagi/Alpha/Raiden for EU if you really want housing" is not ok

    but

    "yeah just move to a different game if you like housing so much heeh xd" is okay
    Neither is okay, yeah? I mean, in the past you thought the former was okay but it's heartening to see growth.
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  5. #205
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    You're on Odin, which currently has 500 open plots.

    Why are we taking houses from people again ?
    Well if Odin is anything like Siren maybe the issue is, as we all know, FCs are those open plots and they AREN'T buying them bc they are too busy buying properties that could also go to private buyers.

    FCs should all have to go Dynamis and the housing should all be changed in favor of private buyers.
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  6. #206
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    Well if Odin is anything like Siren maybe the issue is, as we all know, FCs are those open plots and they AREN'T buying them bc they are too busy buying properties that could also go to private buyers.
    Odin has fc plots and private plots available, and there were plots of both kinds with 0 bids last cycle. No one is missing out in EU anymore. All of the malding and brainstorming for ways to take away people's plots is coming from NA.
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  7. #207
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    Kali Nasha
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    Botanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sindele View Post
    Everyone has the option - you just don't want to because you think it's more costly than it's worth. Which is fine - but at some point you've got to live with the choices you make. How many multi-owners do you really think you'd shake out on Balmung, anyway? The scant handful that exist are going to be very canny and very resource-rich people who would have found a way regardless, because for everyone else it's always been far easier to go elsewhere.

    As for Dynamis, I can already see the near-guaranteed repeat of the Mateus situation on the horizon - when Dynamis' servers start filling up in 7.0 from people who get tired of 8 hour queues to get into Crystal and a wailing cry goes up that the houses are being taken up by the people who bought them after they sat around unused for months. Wasn't particularly sympathetic then, not going to be terribly sympathetic in the future. Part and parcel of moving to a popular server after it becomes popular.
    I really don't understand this take. Getting a small in NA is guaranteed even outside Dynamis. All Dynamis larges are taken or they are super competitive with the lotto.
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  8. #208
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    Khryseis_Astra's Avatar
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiproberts View Post
    I really don't understand this take. Getting a small in NA is guaranteed even outside Dynamis. All Dynamis larges are taken or they are super competitive with the lotto.
    Not on Crystal. Before auto-demo there were 20-30, sometimes more, bids on the few available smalls. We got a nice chunk opened up from auto-demo, even a lot of mediums and some larges. But give it 2-3 rounds and those will be gone, with a good many still homeless.
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  9. #209
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    ElysiumDragon's Avatar
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    Mimilla Milla
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    Spriggan
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    Archer Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Odin has fc plots and private plots available, and there were plots of both kinds with 0 bids last cycle. No one is missing out in EU anymore. All of the malding and brainstorming for ways to take away people's plots is coming from NA.
    Let's be honest with ourselves, it's Balmung and Mateus 90% of the time.
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  10. #210
    Player Yodada's Avatar
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    Let's be honest with ourselves, it's Balmung and Mateus 90% of the time.
    We have to understand those poor Souls, unable to rewrite RP backgrounds for Server movements or going directly for a medium / large instead for going small first. Just like Flies getting into a bug zapper.
    Instead just daydreaming that Square would give in to waist server ressources on additional housing on overpopulated worlds instead on new worlds.
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