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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Well instead of throwing words in people’s mouths and accusing people of saying things they didn’t, why don’t you go back and re read the thread. Or idk, keep bullying max carnage. You do you buddy
    So instead of just stating your point you choose insult. Ok.

    And wow that's such a random insult too lol.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    So instead of just stating your point you choose insult. Ok.
    What’s the insult? My point was already stated. You can go back and read it. It’s where I start with the word “precisely”.

    I’m starting to think you have an obscured perception of what is actually going on. Now please, what insult
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Then what are you even arguing about? My dude asking for change while saying they're not asking for change.




    Ah yeah, the age old of "I'm not asking this for myself but for everyone else". Dude, I don't know nor care whether you get some physical pleasure or mental satisfaction from it, but you're obviously advocating for something "you" want specifically. This is like trying to change the rule of a game, even if the rule will affect everyone it doesn't change the fact it's now played by the rule you want.
    Quote where I ask for the penalty change, since you're so adamant that I am advocating for it. Show me that I said it and I'll conceed. Because I can quote every time I said "I agree with the penalty" and "I don't think it needs to be changed".

    I've literally already told you what I was arguing about. I have told you countless times that I am simply saying someone isn't problematic for wanting to leave, as DF's whole purpose is to complete duties, not whatver you're pretending it's for.

    It's like we're having two different dicussions. You keep telling me I said things I didn't.
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  4. #84
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    First, I thought you said "move on" ?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    I've literally already told you what I was arguing about. I have told you countless times that I am simply saying someone isn't problematic for wanting to leave, as DF's whole purpose is to complete duties,
    Second, I already settled that point with you.

    Specfically - page 5 post #41. I did not quote you again, even after you replied in post #43.

    Until page 6 post #54 where you quoted me (not the other way around) on my talking point against someone else who are clearly advocating for change. At that point it's only reasonable for me to assume you're joining the other argument. You don't get to accuse me putting word in your mouth when you're literally inserting yourself into a different line of argument.


    not whatver you're pretending it's for.
    I'm not the one pretending. You're like someone cut right in front, slam the break and turn around to accuse me for ramming you in the back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Specfically - page 5 post #41. I did not quote you again, even after you replied in post #43.




    Also just gotta ask how showing empathy for someone's frustration suddenly means you agree with their entire talking point.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    At that point it's only reasonable for me to assume you're joining the other argument.
    Followed by

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    You don't get to accuse me putting word in your mouth when you're literally [b]inserting yourself[/b
    are contradictory. You are legitimately putting words in her mouth after assuming her position and arguing with her based on that assumed position. Especially despite her saying that is not her position. You’ve lost the plot.

    Now again, what insult? Right. Was more nonsense
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post




    Also just gotta ask how showing empathy for someone's frustration suddenly means you agree with their entire talking point.
    Thank you. I felt like I was going crazy over how adamant he was that I said something I didn't. I'm not sure if he's purposefully gaslighting or not, but I'm really tired of defending myself over something I didn't say. So thank you.

    And thank you, Kolaina, for standing up for me.
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    So you had a bad experience in the DF and instead of just saying whatever about it you want the entire system changed to accommodate the fact that you don't want to have it happen again, even though the chances of that happening again are low.
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