Demolishing housing for SE Accounts in Bad Standing

[Rueby]

Given their ToS if you breathe the wrong way you can get warnings on your account. So, honestly. No, thanks...

[Pratini]

Given their ToS if you breathe the wrong way you can get warnings on your account. So, honestly. No, thanks...

Well I breath a lot and I have never got a warning on my account.

Don't be toxic, don't get warned.

It's easy... really.

[TaleraRistain]

What does this have to do with what I was replying to??

You said that in SE's eyes an FC is 3 people. They require 3 people to create but FCs aren't destroyed the second they go under 3 people. They only require 1 to maintain and even then only if there's a house to worry about.

[Amarande]

Well I breath a lot and I have never got a warning on my account.

Don't be toxic, don't get warned.

It's easy... really.

Heck, I've had more than a few heated arguments and I've still never got a warning on my account.

And it's not like WoW where you just need a buncha people to report the same person and they're gone regardless of justification (Hunts wouldn't have "early pullers" anymore at this point then, lol).

Honestly? My guess is that the offensive language policy is the Achilles heel; as I said before (although the plural of anecdote is not data and all that jazz), I've had friends occasionally speak of getting a suspension so fast after swearing that I'm pretty sure that while reports are "in the main" manually reviewed, the chat logs are probably first scanned by an automated process, and if any profanity is found the person simply receives a summary action for offensive language right then and there.

Considering that the profanity filter is very sketchy in places to the point where even a normal conversation that you could have in front of Grandma can be detected as containing it (have you ever innocently used a word ending in G followed by the word "is" in conversation? Pretty sure a lot of people say things like "well, the thing is ..." right? Yep, that will get question marks on it if the filter is on), I'm going to bank on there being quite a number of these cases where someone is zapped for what seems a scarily minor incident because of automatic profanity detection.

Combined with the fact that SE has a policy not to share with the suspended person the exact words that found them guilty, this could indeed contribute to a higher anxiety atmosphere than might be expected on the surface.

[Kaurhz]

I don't think offenders should be penalised in this regard.

Sure, it is a luxury to own a house in FFXIV due to the limited nature, that does not mean that people should be barred from it if they have committed an offense. They are already penalised with a strike on their account and/or temporary bans

That being said, SE should do more to actually discourage housing ownership for submarine sweatshop factories.

[Stormpeaks]

I don't think offenders should be penalised in this regard.

Sure, it is a luxury to own a house in FFXIV due to the limited nature, that does not mean that people should be barred from it if they have committed an offense. They are already penalised with a strike on their account and/or temporary bans

That being said, SE should do more to actually discourage housing ownership for submarine sweatshop factories.

They should, once every plot is taken. As of right now we are very far off from every plot being taken, at least on EU, and as for NA, Dynamis is wide open, I cant speak for JP though as I dont follow housing there.

[Kaurhz]

They should, once every plot is taken. As of right now we are very far off from every plot being taken, at least on EU, and as for NA, Dynamis is wide open, I cant speak for JP though as I dont follow housing there.

Uh, they should do it on servers where housing is non-existent, or at very least, significantly inaccessible. I don't think it should be done when all servers have reached this state, simply because I don't think people should need to select their servers, or frankly transfer to get housing due to people being grandfathered in.

[Escence]

Auto-demolition has been active for 47 days now. Those who haven't logged in since 6.3 was released lost their houses Friday morning (except on EU, where demolition went back into effect due to the earthquake).

Looks like most NA worlds had 400-500 plots demo out of the potential 7200. It becomes a new opportunity to get an idea of just how much unmet demand there is on the NA worlds. Balmung and Mateus will definitely still have problems because they had smaller numbers of plots freed up.

Well going to numbers in double and triple digits. If its a FC going for a large mansion then they are going to go have as many people they can enter that lottery to increase their chances, which I feel like that it should only be limited to the leader of the fc. As for homes if it a medium or large except high number closer the last day of the lottery because interest in smalls homes aren't must need and generally to the playerbase and they will sell last once all the medium and large sell.

[SweetestLily]

You said that in SE's eyes an FC is 3 people. They require 3 people to create but FCs aren't destroyed the second they go under 3 people. They only require 1 to maintain and even then only if there's a house to worry about.

Again, my comment had nothing to do with this. I was replying to the person who said that an fc house with under 5 active members should be destroyed, which logically makes no sense because SE considers only 3 ppl are needed for an fc. I dont understand how what you're saying applies here at all.

[TempusFinis]

Unfortunately, the permabanned accounts are tossed around in these large FCs like tokens, and some cases idolized or made FC leaders again.


I'm thinking of the following:


1) Automatic kick of FC members after 180 days that have made no contributions to the FC ranking.* This would take care of idolizing or tokenizing permabanned accounts, and incentize using inactive FC accounts.

2) Not allowing FC rank changes for FC members that have made no contributions in 180 days.* Again, this would take care of idolizing or tokenizing permabanned accounts.


This would indirectly help with permabanned accounts with housing without directly distinguishing between inactive players and permabanned players. The 180 days is arbitrary.


Your thoughts?