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  1. #11
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Leaving my SAM in Kugane
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    I'm fine with SAM being bad in PvP seeing as the weeb jobs get the PVE bias.

    Gunbreaker is based, btw. Really like playing it in pvp
    GNB is crazy fun. I just wish junction worked differently.
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  2. #12
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    True-to-Caesar's Avatar
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    Kyros Orsidius
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    Sagittarius
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Now I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with your message, but SAM, no snare? What the heck is hyosetsu if not a snare?
    Same as the stun : 2s, not worth a note as it’s a gcd.
    That’s why I mentioned root/snare (proper ones), as it’s sorely lacking with a melee job that has its main abilities have casts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Gunbreaker is based, btw. Really like playing it in pvp
    I main GNB in PvE but sadly in PvP it’s just not game changing compared to the other tanks. You have a choice to either do decent damage but be weak or do wet noodle damage and be very tough (not as paladin but still decent to hold a point on your own for a bit or prevent captures in Frontline).

    I just went with Warrior in the end for PvP (I just play frontlines these days). The utility with the AoE stun that also works as gap closer, the grip/pull… it just doesn’t compare. GNB has one of the worst LBs as it can be completely denied with a simple stun or well placed cc. Wish they improved it.
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    Last edited by True-to-Caesar; 02-25-2023 at 09:06 AM.

  3. #13
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    Not really, outside the LB gimmick it’s pretty bland and weak compared to other melees. Mainly because all the « big » hitting abilities have longass casts… for a melee with no slows or snare and a single very short stun on CD.

    Compare to monk, ninja or dragoon, and it is indeed not very good.

    If you have to play a melee go with one of the three above or play Warrior/DRK. They have really good utility and if you play your cards well you can feel your contributions to the team.
    Honestly, monk and dragoon are amazing for CC, ninja is.... okay tbf
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  4. #14
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Everyone's stuns are only 2-3 seconds. It's fine the way it is. Should it be off the global? Probably, but it's still fine. The only thing I would change is adjust their cast times or just remove them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    Honestly, monk and dragoon are amazing for CC, ninja is.... okay tbf
    Lmao what? Nin is amazing in CC.
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  5. #15
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Kansene View Post
    GNB is really fun, you can catch a lot of people off guard with how bursty it can be ;0
    Oh yeah, GNB was alot of fun in ranked when i somehow managed to 3 shot people.
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  6. #16
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I still think the skill ceiling is too high for SAM. It really needs to be a bit more accessible, but if you ever see an actual good SAM, you will never again say that it's weak outside of its LB. They are a scary bunch when they know how to combo and time things correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia View Post
    Buff Blackmage
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

  7. #17
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Elfidan View Post
    I still think the skill ceiling is too high for SAM. It really needs to be a bit more accessible, but if you ever see an actual good SAM, you will never again say that it's weak outside of its LB. They are a scary bunch when they know how to combo and time things correctly.
    never see a good samurai, i seen really good reapers though.
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  8. #18
    Player RyanCousland's Avatar
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    Rion Cousland
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    never see a good samurai, i seen really good reapers though.
    should dc travel to primal theres quite a few
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  9. #19
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Towa Musa
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanCousland View Post
    should dc travel to primal theres quite a few
    i think i'll pass, i hear primal is the closest thing to a WoW server. no offense of course.
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  10. #20
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    Kyros Orsidius
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    Sagittarius
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    i think i'll pass, i hear primal is the closest thing to a WoW server. no offense of course.
    You mean they have a Goldshire somewhere ?
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