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    Greyhawk's Avatar
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    Coven Whitewolf
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    You've stated contradictory comments here.

    On one hand, you say that if one isn't aware they're saying something potentially bad, they should check what they say before they say it.
    Then you say how people can find offense in anything and report you for it.

    How exactly are you supposed to check what you say if you can accidentally offend some random person in an unknown way?

    This is part of why 14 has an absolutely garbage punishment system. You can't improve if you have no idea what you did wrong, and being forced to walk on eggshells like Square seems to think is appropriate is NOT the answer.
    Wasn't really my intention, but it did bring out the point I was trying to make. Subjectivity kills in this situation. No matter what, you are wrong in what you do. I've just taken the point to just not say anything in game anymore (hardly at all) unless I am explaining a fight. Other than that, unfortunately not here to chit-chat and make friends, because people will be offended by pretty much anything said.
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    Boblawblah's Avatar
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Wasn't really my intention, but it did bring out the point I was trying to make. Subjectivity kills in this situation. No matter what, you are wrong in what you do. I've just taken the point to just not say anything in game anymore (hardly at all) unless I am explaining a fight. Other than that, unfortunately not here to chit-chat and make friends, because people will be offended by pretty much anything said.
    Huh, do people really have that much difficulty NOT being a dick? I mean, avoid sex, race, religion and politics, and you're basically completely safe. Combine that with being kind to people and you'll be fine. It's ironic that the same people complaining about someone being sensitive are being JUST as sensitive as those they're accusing.
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    Zebra Rune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyhawk View Post
    Wasn't really my intention, but it did bring out the point I was trying to make. Subjectivity kills in this situation. No matter what, you are wrong in what you do. I've just taken the point to just not say anything in game anymore (hardly at all) unless I am explaining a fight. Other than that, unfortunately not here to chit-chat and make friends, because people will be offended by pretty much anything said.
    I figured you hadn't intended it the way it came across, but it was a good jumping point for me to make a statement so there's that. I agree the safest thing to do is just not talk to people, but realistically there's not REALLY a need for such draconian measures. It just sucks that people can report you for offering advice in dungeons (no matter how polite you come across, go take a gander at r/tales of duty finder), or someone can decide to be spiteful and trick you into saying something reportable. Thankfully I assume in most cases the GMs see through such bs, but you never know what slips through (because technically telling someone how to play their job better is kind of against TOS).

    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Huh, do people really have that much difficulty NOT being a dick? I mean, avoid sex, race, religion and politics, and you're basically completely safe. Combine that with being kind to people and you'll be fine. It's ironic that the same people complaining about someone being sensitive are being JUST as sensitive as those they're accusing.
    I mean, not being a dick is easy, but perception is everything - it's so easy for people to misunderstand or take something you say out of context and find offense in it.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 02-25-2023 at 09:06 AM.

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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    I figured you hadn't intended it the way it came across, but it was a good jumping point for me to make a statement so there's that. I agree the safest thing to do is just not talk to people, but realistically there's not REALLY a need for such draconian measures. It just sucks that people can report you for offering advice in dungeons (no matter how polite you come across, go take a gander at r/tales of duty finder), or someone can decide to be spiteful and trick you into saying something reportable. Thankfully I assume in most cases the GMs see through such bs, but you never know what slips through (because technically telling someone how to play their job better is kind of against TOS).
    It's kind of sad that the best way to play this MMO is "Don't talk to anyone you don't know already"
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