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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
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    Also just commenting, I think it's funny (and sadly, disappointing) that the name of the Hrothgar race is Norse, but as far as I'm able to tell, neither of the existing Clans seems to have any Nordic influence? There seems to be a decent Russian influence, as well as Germanic (which I suppose is some connection), but I'd definitely dig a clan more aligned with the old Norse, "viking" sort of culture. And I feel like that would mesh absolutely perfectly with more of a "Wolf" clan for the Hrothgar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post

    We've not yet been to Meracydia, but we know it's a continent to the south. It makes sense that we may visit it in the future, and seems a great opportunity to showcase some new cultures and potentially even looking a bit distinct from those we've previously seen.

    ...

    - "Wolf" Hrothgar

    I really dig the IDEA of the Hrothgar. I've always gravitated towards larger, tough-looking characters, and the initial artwork shown of the Hrothgar looked awesome. However, the end result look a bit too much like "big kitty-cat men", which feels a bit "cutesy".

    I would LOVE to have a "clan" of Hrothgar with more Wolf-inspired features. I'd also love if they were maybe a LITTLE less chonky, a little more lean, but if that's not possible, whatever. I'd love going all-out with a Nordic/Viking sort of theme, maybe some long, ornate braids? Maybe having "fur" over your entire body, as well? Mainly just more "canine" face options.
    In general, I like the idea. The new areas we would explore in the game could bring to us these new variations, since all clans we have access are based on in the Eorzea, Dalmasca and Othard areas.

    About the Hrotghars, I think a "wolfy" one won't happen. We already have a notion of a race of wolfy people at Doma. So, to make something similar or a mix between hroths and them would not be interesting to develop...

    Miqo'tes from Meracydia could have a new pattern of furry areas in their bodies (the same goes for Vieras and maybe Hroths) like necks or shoulders or feet or whatever.

    I hope Meracydia would bring more "wild and tribal" environments and cultures with new jobs like xaman or druids of the forest and those new clans with similar themes in their clan traits. It would be nice
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzzo View Post
    About the Hrotghars, I think a "wolfy" one won't happen. We already have a notion of a race of wolfy people at Doma. So, to make something similar or a mix between hroths and them would not be interesting to develop...

    Miqo'tes from Meracydia could have a new pattern of furry areas in their bodies (the same goes for Vieras and maybe Hroths) like necks or shoulders or feet or whatever.
    This would definitely make people who want something closer to FF11's Mithra a bit happier. Maybe also keep them away from discussions on unrelated races in turn I don't know how differently they could make Hrothgar fur, but at least for Miqo'te it'd be an idea that's much easier to execute.

    For a wolf-related Hrothgar, as cool as that'd be and as much as (I think) Yoshida said before there'd be canine-looking options, they have far too many Panthera traits for it to suddenly change. When you factor in the Lupines, I doubt canids would be an option.

    I don't even want to suggest "mixing" Lupines and Hrothgar due to the implications. Not just because they'd be furry races, but because it'd open the can of worms that are mixed races in general, such as Half-Elezen Half-Hyurs. We know they exist. But we don't know the extent they'd be allowed to exist. Plenty of combinations would make some portions of the FF14 playerbase uncomfortable.
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  5. #45
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    If Hrothgar are going to get any kind of new clan, it should be something that looks more like the Ronso they were based on. Taller and a bit leaner, with more pronounced horns and no inexplicably bad posture.

    I can't stand Hrothgar as they are now, but a variant that is just Ronso ported over? Yeah, that I'd be cool with.

    Also, survey will definitely accept Garlean as a Hyur clan option. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    If Hrothgar are going to get any kind of new clan, it should be something that looks more like the Ronso they were based on. Taller and a bit leaner, with more pronounced horns and no inexplicably bad posture.

    I can't stand Hrothgar as they are now, but a variant that is just Ronso ported over? Yeah, that I'd be cool with.

    Also, survey will definitely accept Garlean as a Hyur clan option. >_>
    Ronso from FFX should've been a direct translation to FFXIV's Hrothgar. They're giant, they're atheletic and definitely their posture are infinitely better than the sad excuses we have in the game. Also their faces would look much better, never liked how they modeled some of the Hroth face types. One of them I swear feels like an Oblivion Khajiit
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    Last edited by Atelier-Bagur; 02-25-2023 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Also just commenting, I think it's funny (and sadly, disappointing) that the name of the Hrothgar race is Norse, but as far as I'm able to tell, neither of the existing Clans seems to have any Nordic influence? There seems to be a decent Russian influence, as well as Germanic (which I suppose is some connection), but I'd definitely dig a clan more aligned with the old Norse, "viking" sort of culture. And I feel like that would mesh absolutely perfectly with more of a "Wolf" clan for the Hrothgar.
    Calm down there, we haven't seen all of Ilsabard. Besides, Hrothgar may have been like that before Gunnhildr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
    Also just commenting, I think it's funny (and sadly, disappointing) that the name of the Hrothgar race is Norse, but as far as I'm able to tell, neither of the existing Clans seems to have any Nordic influence? There seems to be a decent Russian influence, as well as Germanic (which I suppose is some connection), but I'd definitely dig a clan more aligned with the old Norse, "viking" sort of culture. And I feel like that would mesh absolutely perfectly with more of a "Wolf" clan for the Hrothgar.
    Ackchyually... it's Anglo-Saxon "Hrothgar" is the Anglo-Saxon version of the Norse "Hroar". Which is odd because...

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Calm down there, we haven't seen all of Ilsabard. Besides, Hrothgar may have been like that before Gunnhildr.
    Gunnhildr is indeed Old Norse.

    ...so idk what our devs are trying to accomplish, but it seems Germanic, Nordic and Slavic all kinda count?

    But we're only told of the Slavic names for the Source. Germanic names like Magnus and Norse names like Runar tend to be more associated with the First.

    ...and then there's the fact that Misija Votyasch is a Hrothgar name |D I know people can adopt, but given how caste societies work and how there's virtually no indication there's any relation going on with Hrothgar ancestry... yeaah. And I checked: Roegadyn NPCs have their normal "Eorzean-style" nomenclature in Gangos. So this isn't a "Bozjan naming thing".

    Hrothgars are a design mess xD consistency dove out the window.
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    For the record, I'm also totally on board with Hrothgar getting more of a FFX Ronzo "look" to them. I feel like that would be more appropriate for "The Lost" clan, given it sure seems like they're supposed to be that.

    As far as there being any kind of issue with them having both canine and feline "counterparts", you could totally chalk those differences up to being distant cousins. All playable races are theoretically descended from the Ancients, so it's unlikely the Hrothgar are SPECIFICALLY related to cats anyways, so some appearing more canine would surely make just as much sense.

    Beyond that, I'd probably give them proper "fur" to cover their whole bodies, not just their shoulders and forearms. Maybe longer, more wild-looking braids and whatnot for their "hair", or even just mohawks, but just more savage-looking in general?
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    Quote Originally Posted by weebtext View Post
    So.. a Hyur then?
    Tbh I'm not opposed to getting a hyur models for the other races. Nothing stops a Hyur from being as tall as a male au'ra, or girls being more identical to female au'ras.
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