Bozja Improvement Ideas

[AstreMcClain]

I've never done Bozja... does it still offer anything relevant?

To put it as simply as I can. The story. That's it- While yes some people find the *old-school mmo* style content "fun" it's a major disparage from how XIV is normally. The relics you get aren't really worth doing unless it's for glamour but aren't relevant now that we're in endwalker and are doing EW relics.

Personally, I liked the story, however the aspect of held exp and then banking what you have doesn't do it justice (This is just from personal bias since people Ruined Eureka for me and you shouldn't hold it to the content. Try it out you, might like it.) That being said- The only viable reasons for going into Bozja now are:

~Story
Hairstyles
Mounts
Minions
and Glamours


That's really it.

[AstreMcClain]

The notes are fine the way they are now, I think they're already being generous enough by giving you RNG chances to skip the duels. The duels are still there and still just as accessible as they've always been, if you can't beat them then the skybike isn't for you.

The only way I could see notes for clusters being a positive change is if they make cluster vouchers similar to bicolor gemstones so that they can charge 1000+ clusters each for the duel notes, if you're bypassing the challenge it should take should take much more time, and maybe then the MB prices for all of the cluster items will start going back up.

This is very constructive to the conversation Thank you! Though I will say- I have been attempting said Skirmishes/duels when they drop for over a year (On and off with Some breaks like story and pvp to avoid burn out when I'm not working my two IRL Jobs). I just have an extremely hard time remembering mechanics if I can't constantly do them (Seeing as they are 1v1 duels and you can only get in them if you get picked/have enough notoriety so that makes it hard to practice them), HOWEVER I do appreciate the alternative that you have provided

Leave Bozja alone please. Quit lobotomizing the game, it's some of the best content we have. Delubrum is kind of meh but CLL and everything else is actually fun and enjoyable. You also have to work together to pass instances etc... it's a rare breed of content that should stay as is.

Wow, that is a HORRIBLE take. Not to mention not even remotely the point of the thread.

Asking for an alternative so you don't get locked into content you don't want to do because "carrot on a stick" is NOT Lobotimizing the game, this kind of content is fine for you and people who enjoy the content- you guys CAN enjoy it. but there are people out there (Like myself) who would like an alternate method to wrapping up the content because artificial content life expansion is not something that should ever be in a game. Before you try and counter this point, Yes it's artificial content life expansion because the duels gate slow down how many people can complete their note logs down to a crawl, basically you either grind mindlessly until you die of old age or you get into a 1v1, try and fail because you can't magically get good from just watching. I literally was just standing around with a PLD waiting for MDK to pop cause timer- that's not fun, especially when they're quiet and don't say anything.

[Ath192]

Wow, that is a HORRIBLE take. Not to mention not even remotely the point of the thread.

Asking for an alternative so you don't get locked into content you don't want to do because "carrot on a stick" is NOT Lobotimizing the game, this kind of content is fine for you and people who enjoy the content- you guys CAN enjoy it. but there are people out there (Like myself) who would like an alternate method to wrapping up the content because artificial content life expansion is not something that should ever be in a game. Before you try and counter this point, Yes it's artificial content life expansion because the duels gate slow down how many people can complete their note logs down to a crawl, basically you either grind mindlessly until you die of old age or you get into a 1v1, try and fail because you can't magically get good from just watching. I literally was just standing around with a PLD waiting for MDK to pop cause timer- that's not fun, especially when they're quiet and don't say anything.

Yeah it’s grind content, for completionists. It was grindy then, it’s grindy now. That’s its purpose. And you are asking to make it not grindy. Do you want the zodiac relics (not replicas, just genuine all ready to go ones) to be sold by NPCs now too?

Still a hard no. No one was under any illlusion at any point after it released that it wasn’t a huge grind.

[AstreMcClain]

Yeah it’s grind content, for completionists. It was grindy then, it’s grindy now. That’s its purpose. And you are asking to make it not grindy. Do you want the zodiac relics (not replicas, just genuine all ready to go ones) to be sold by NPCs now too?

Still a hard no. No one was under any illlusion at any point after it released that it wasn’t a huge grind.

I never said it wasn't but when it takes you about 7 months to finish something that was long finished then players get frustrated and stop playing- and my statements were not about relics. Again, you missed the point of my posts and this thread- it was about the Notes, something that should be easier to obtain that doesn't detract from relics since you'd generally need notes to progress at some point and not everyone is going to know where notes spawn, allowing players to grind clusters and buy notes for like 1k a pop should have also been an option. Again, my statements were about notes, not relics. Eureka is the only one I have yet to even finish one with while all the others I have several in, so trust me I know that grindy content is meant to be grindy, but something that becomes optional after part two or when you finished the main portion of the content shouldn't be. Kindly contribute an Idea you would like to see include in Bojza or bug off.

[Ath192]

it was about the Notes, something that should be easier to obtain that doesn't detract from relics since you'd generally need notes to progress at some point and not everyone is going to know where notes spawn, allowing players to grind clusters and buy notes for like 1k a pop should have also been an option.

Yeah I don't want that. My suggestion for Bozja if anything would be that the systems found in there be applied to more of the game. See like you I don't have all the notes, but its something I occasionally work on and look forward to as a long term goal, If I could buy them for 1K I would be done with that and never have a reason to revisit or study for the CE's. It could take me a year, maybe more, but im not sweating it, I can get over the fact that I don't have to have everything right now.

I mentioned the relics as another example of content that is supposed to be grindy, like the notes, that I wouldn't like changed. You need to deal with the fact that not everyone wants things to be easy and not everyone is going to agree with you. If you don't like discourse in the forums, a place for public discussion, then you should bug off.

[AstreMcClain]

Ignoring them and moving on because It's not worth getting heated over.

In light of the Solo Duels being so Hard to even get into, I do think having "Practice" Npc's Like Mammets who do similar mechanic's so that you could practice said duels would be a good addition. Like not full fights but at the very least one of each mechanic so that way you could practice the mechanics when ever you want. Or at least something so that way people can actually know what they are doing when they get into it.

[DiaDeem]

I actually don't mind the drop rates as much, but what really REALLY annoys me is the random spawn times for some of the Skirmishes required. We spent over 2 hours earlier in Primal killing Scorpions to spawn For Absent Friends and in turn Of Steel and Flame, and it just didn't feel like spawning. Why? I have no idea. Next one respawned in like half an hour. Why? I have no idea. Standing in a tiny plateau for 2 hours killing the same two enemies until the thing decides to spawn isn't engaging, hard, or interesting. It's a waste of time.

[AstreMcClain]

Yeah, they can feel like they take ages to spawn. increasing the spawn rate might be a good thing.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I personally see the only thing they need to touch is to either improve the drop rate/skirmish spawn frequency, and/or allow up to 2-5 duelists to challenge the duels.

So let's say there are 5 player who's eligible to enter the duel? Pick 3 players with highest notoriety rating & let them queue in line. If the first player fail to complete the duel, then whoever's in 2nd (and eventually 3rd) place should get the chance to take their place.

Resource wise, imho everything's fine except those essences that are attainable only from CLL & Dalriada. It would be nice to at least have them in cluster vendor -after- player clears said duties at least once, even if it may be expensive.

[AstreMcClain]

Yeah, like I get a lot of Tanking Essences even though I don't like to tank a lot so I'm just like begging for some Beasts at this point.