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  1. #61
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    But hey, now you know what they do and won't be saying something daft like how "ACT enables zoomhacks".
    Literally who said this? I’d like to see this quote

    Also while trying to make add ons seem harmless and of no real advantage, you convenient left out the one that shows an overlay of where not to stand for mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    To clarify for people who don't know what these do:
    • XIV Alexander is a tool that allows several different add-ons and modifications. The most common use of it is to reduce input lag, often caused by high ping, allowing you to consistently weave OGCDs without clipping. This is especially good for stuff like MCH, GNB and DRG who are known for double-weaving skills. But it can also allow you to change fonts and even tack on a translation for the game in your language to help with people with language barriers (for example, ever noticed there isn't a Spanish translation despite Spanish being a widely-spoken language? There you have it.)
    • ACT is what enables parses. What parses do is see how much numbers you deal in a fight and add them up for you instantly and comprehensively. This information is all in the Battle Chat Log, but no sane person would use excel to calculate an entire chat log. ACT does it automatically and live, through reading information to and from the server directly. That's all it does: just shows you numbers.
    • Cactbot on the other hand is a plug-in that is then tacked onto ACT, allowing you to have live call-outs for the fight. Several people do consider this cheating, because it reads fight information and can resolve mechanics for you. Others don't, because the call-outs it gives are 90% obvious, and barring specific mechanics where it DOES bypass the mental challenge altogether, the call-outs still require you to know how to resolve the mechanic and really only remind you that a mechanic is coming. Some people also consider this to be no different than your raid leader doing call-outs on Discord calls, but it does have extra benefits that your raid leader would not be doing, as it's far more personal.

    There are other plug-ins, of course. But hey, now you know what they do and won't be saying something daft like how "ACT enables zoomhacks".

    Source: Google is free.
    Nice post. Hopefully people read this before commenting on that topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    tbf you did get both barrels of my frustrations and for that, I do apologise and yeah the whole 3rd party tools vs cheating discourse with go on till the end of time
    I apologize as well. I can sometimes be irritating. I look at some of my old posts and I'm like "wow I was annoying." lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    I just want male characters to not have ken doll anatomy :c

    And butt sliders.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 02-21-2023 at 02:44 AM.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    yeah, I am gatekeeping, what about it? as I said I'll respect someone's opinion on a topic more if they are active with the subject. there nothing wrong with that.
    "This food tastes like crap." "How dare you, your opinion doesn't matter, you're not a chef!"
    "This movie could have been better." "Shut up you're not a movie director!"
    "This dress is hideous!" "YOU'RE NOT A DESIGNER!"

    Heh.
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  4. #64
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Literally who said this? I’d like to see this quote

    Also while trying to make add ons seem harmless and of no real advantage, you convenient left out the one that shows an overlay of where not to stand for mechanics.
    It's an example, Kolaina, calm down please? There are peope constantly conflating stuff like plug-ins and mods are cheats. They are not. Cheats give you an immediate advantage and often are exploits. Mods can be as simple as aesthetic stuff that have no immediate bearing on gameplay. Unless your definition of cheat happens to also include "You guys can do it, PS players can't", this is what people normally refer to when they complain about the use of cheats. If anything, those are what Square Enix hunts after. Not the small fry add-ons.

    ...also, if you have such an issue, why don't YOU make a post clarifying this? I didn't "conveniently" leave out anything. If you have issue with it, do so yourself. Clearly I didn't say what you wanted me to say.

    Everyone in this thread right now is up in arms because Stormpeaks and you are having a catfight, but the real issue is that neither of you have any chill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    To clarify for people who don't know what these do:
    • XIV Alexander is a tool that allows several different add-ons and modifications. The most common use of it is to reduce input lag, often caused by high ping, allowing you to consistently weave OGCDs without clipping. This is especially good for stuff like MCH, GNB and DRG who are known for double-weaving skills. But it can also allow you to change fonts and even tack on a translation for the game in your language to help with people with language barriers (for example, ever noticed there isn't a Spanish translation despite Spanish being a widely-spoken language? There you have it.)
    • ACT is what enables parses. What parses do is see how much numbers you deal in a fight and add them up for you instantly and comprehensively. This information is all in the Battle Chat Log, but no sane person would use excel to calculate an entire chat log. ACT does it automatically and live, through reading information to and from the server directly. That's all it does: just shows you numbers.
    • Cactbot on the other hand is a plug-in that is then tacked onto ACT, allowing you to have live call-outs for the fight. Several people do consider this cheating, because it reads fight information and can resolve mechanics for you. Others don't, because the call-outs it gives are 90% obvious, and barring specific mechanics where it DOES bypass the mental challenge altogether, the call-outs still require you to know how to resolve the mechanic and really only remind you that a mechanic is coming. Some people also consider this to be no different than your raid leader doing call-outs on Discord calls, but it does have extra benefits that your raid leader would not be doing, as it's far more personal.

    There are other plug-ins, of course. But hey, now you know what they do and won't be saying something daft like how "ACT enables zoomhacks".

    Source: Google is free.
    Regardless it is still cheating and strictly prohibited also the use of custom launcher for the game that is not approved by SE.

    This is more a yell out or rama scream to that I am not that awesome at playing the game and all that I know will find out if I lose this crutch kind of mentality shown, as for the game only supporting JP, FR, ENG, DE, just mean you need to learn a second language... neither of these languages is my native language, but english is my second and German is my Third...I know a little tad of French as well and I speak one Scandinavian language perfect and understand 2 additional of them.

    SE should do something about this and for good that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixieh View Post
    "This food tastes like crap." "How dare you, your opinion doesn't matter, you're not a chef!"
    "This movie could have been better." "Shut up you're not a movie director!"
    "This dress is hideous!" "YOU'RE NOT A DESIGNER!"

    Heh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Regardless it is still cheating and strictly prohibited also the use of custom launcher for the game that is not approved by SE.

    This is more a yell out or rama scream to that I am not that awesome at playing the game and all that I know will find out if I lose this crutch kind of mentality shown, as for the game only supporting JP, FR, ENG, DE, just mean you need to learn a second language... neither of these languages is my native language, but english is my second and German is my Third...I know a little tad of French as well and I speak one Scandinavian language perfect and understand 2 additional of them.

    SE should do something about this and for good that is.
    I think we all know they are prohibited, but can disagree they are across the board harmful just because they are prohibited. A lot of people say things like "who cares if someone puts a hat on their veira" with a mod, which is prohibited.

    I personally love parsers, and if they aren't used to kick random players in roulettes, I think they provide great learning tools. They can also be fun, like when I raided friendly competition with other DPS to push those numbers as high as you can.

    I'm sure they are prohibited because they can be used to exclude, and this is a very casual-friendly game. But I think they bring a lot of positive things to the table for learning, tailoring which of your teammates may need guidance, or just simply friendly fun.
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  8. #68
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Regardless it is still cheating and strictly prohibited also the use of custom launcher for the game that is not approved by SE.

    This is more a yell out or rama scream to that I am not that awesome at playing the game and all that I know will find out if I lose this crutch kind of mentality shown, as for the game only supporting JP, FR, ENG, DE, just mean you need to learn a second language... neither of these languages is my native language, but english is my second and German is my Third...I know a little tad of French as well and I speak one Scandinavian language perfect and understand 2 additional of them.

    SE should do something about this and for good that is.
    I'd just like to clarify that me trying to explain what they do doesn't mean I support their use. SE should be the one implementing these features, not amateurs. Same goes for mods.

    Just in case I'm being accused of having an agenda for clarifying shit again.

    Also... unrelated, but xD to be fair, DK and NO are pretty similar. Swedish I struggle with the most tho. Regardless, I wouldn't flex on languages if I were you. I speak English, Spanish, Portuguese, some French, Norwegian Bokmål, German and am studying Mandarin Chinese. I still struggle with some linguistic nuances. I myself argue that Spanish at the very least should also be implemented into the game, considering its popularity in the western world, even leagues above German.
    And I wouldn't take "just learn English" at face-value. Not every educational system is good, and not every country cares about English to the point of understanding the semi-archaic language and overly formal textbook English the game uses. I've had Russian and Dutch friends who speak pretty decent English online say they still struggle with understanding the game.
    Edit: Simple English is a thing for a reason.

    btw, what's a Rama scream tho? :x Like, I'm thinking "Rama" from Hinduism, but I doubt that's the case?
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    Last edited by Midareyukki; 02-21-2023 at 03:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixieh View Post
    "This food tastes like crap." "How dare you, your opinion doesn't matter, you're not a chef!"
    "This movie could have been better." "Shut up you're not a movie director!"
    "This dress is hideous!" "YOU'RE NOT A DESIGNER!"

    Heh.
    A valiant attempt, unfortunately you didnt quite nail it. Let me help you out with it:

    "This food tastes like crap." "What do you know about taste having only ever eaten plain bread?"
    "This movie could have been better." "Shut up, you havent seen a single non-marvel movie ever."
    "This dress is hideous." "Brave words by someone who has never bothered with fashion in their life."

    Active in a subject doesnt always have to mean being a creator in that subject. It can in some situations though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    It's an example, Kolaina, calm down please? There are peope constantly conflating stuff like plug-ins and mods are cheats. They are not. Cheats give you an immediate advantage and often are exploits. Mods can be as simple as aesthetic stuff that have no immediate bearing on gameplay. Unless your definition of cheat happens to also include "You guys can do it, PS players can't", this is what people normally refer to when they complain about the use of cheats. If anything, those are what Square Enix hunts after. Not the small fry add-ons.

    ...also, if you have such an issue, why don't YOU make a post clarifying this? I didn't "conveniently" leave out anything. If you have issue with it, do so yourself. Clearly I didn't say what you wanted me to say.

    Everyone in this thread right now is up in arms because Stormpeaks and you are having a catfight, but the real issue is that neither of you have any chill.
    How was what they said not calm? Because they asked for a quote? Y'all really are something. Goes back to what I said earlier, I suppose.
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