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  1. #271
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Ok...I wanted to believe you were paying attention but it's clear here you aren't. First off I specifically mentioned folk who complain all the time. You know the ones that say the game is dead, dying, boring? Not the average player that has some grievances. I've never ONCE called anyone a hater. All I did was simply give some advice to said EXTREME side if they want to be heard by the devs. No where near a "just unsub hater"...this is exactly what I was referring to btw. Yall hop to these conclusions any time someone says something you don't like. I'm trying to help. Literally that was my only goal with that post...
    You are right in the sense that money talks. However, when people are more than happy to engage in a product that is showing lethargy through slimmer patches and leaning harder and harder on a cash shop in a game where you already pay for a subscription then even if you leave, the rot has already set in. In WoW terms it feels like ShB was their WotLK and EW feels more and more like Panderia as the patches go on.
    "they don't care as they're still getting your money. They've no reason to change anything. That's my point. So yes you can complain and still stay subbed, just understand that it's not going to be as effective doing that."
    And here is where the argument falls apart, sure some may leave due to the decline but there are plenty more ready to pay the subscription AND engage with the mogshop. Suddenly those people leaving won't matter to SE's bottom line. Besides, are you really going to cite SE's business practices as smart? If that's the case then I can't wait for the eventual NFT malarkey in XIV. That's is going to be a glorious ____show! lol
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  2. #272
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    hobostew's Avatar
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    Astrid Arkwright
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    MoP was awesome though. EW feels more like a WoD.
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  3. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    MoP was awesome though. EW feels more like a WoD.
    WoD eh? What if... there was a small garrison in your island sanctuary?
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  4. #274
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    IkaraGreydancer's Avatar
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    You are right in the sense that money talks. However, when people are more than happy to engage in a product that is showing lethargy through slimmer patches and leaning harder and harder on a cash shop in a game where you already pay for a subscription then even if you leave, the rot has already set in. In WoW terms it feels like ShB was their WotLK and EW feels more and more like Panderia as the patches go on.
    "they don't care as they're still getting your money. They've no reason to change anything. That's my point. So yes you can complain and still stay subbed, just understand that it's not going to be as effective doing that."
    And here is where the argument falls apart, sure some may leave due to the decline but there are plenty more ready to pay the subscription AND engage with the mogshop. Suddenly those people leaving won't matter to SE's bottom line. Besides, are you really going to cite SE's business practices as smart? If that's the case then I can't wait for the eventual NFT malarkey in XIV. That's is going to be a glorious ____show! lol
    Then all I'll say is complain to your hearts content. Just don't expect people (SE included) to take you seriously if you're constantly throwing money at it despite saying the game it trash, boring etc. I personally drop games I'm not having fun in after I've said my piece. I left Vindictus like that for example. I'm not spending my money on a product I'm not enjoying, point blank period

    Btw if people are spending that much and folks leaving doesn't effect much wouldn't mean there's something going right more than not? Just a wonder
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  5. #275
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    Coatl's Avatar
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    Coatl Days
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    The game isn't going to change, whether you leave or not. Just move on.

    That's what I'm going to do.
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  6. #276
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    Zoh Chah
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobostew View Post
    MoP was awesome though. EW feels more like a WoD.
    For Endwalker to feel like WoD, Island Sanctuaries would have to have cost us a raid tier like how Garrisons did in WoW. Considering we have two whole more raid tiers than WoD and haven't missed a beat, Endwalker looks like a masterclass compared to Snorelords of Boremore.
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  7. #277
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    For Endwalker to feel like WoD, Island Sanctuaries would have to have cost us a raid tier like how Garrisons did in WoW. Considering we have two whole more raid tiers than WoD and haven't missed a beat, Endwalker looks like a masterclass compared to Snorelords of Boremore.
    It did cost us a raid tier, but where on earth are you getting the 2 more raid tiers in XIV from? WoD gave you Highmaul, Blackrock Foundry and Hellfire Citadel, I'm counting 3. Endwalker gave us Asphodelos, Abyssos and whatever the last one will be called, also 3.

    WoD was lacking in basically all content except raids.
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  8. #278
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    Graeham Graisse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    WoD eh? What if... there was a small garrison in your island sanctuary?
    Ohhhhhh you are right. It is copy the SimFarm.

    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Btw if people are spending that much and folks leaving doesn't effect much wouldn't mean there's something going right more than not? Just a wonder
    Read the guild tread. Chara sub to own the houses it is reason for complaint. If unsub all same chara losing the house and it go sell to other chara who beg for house many years. Is reason why complain here. Is unfair for the chara who not using house but do not want to lose.
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  9. #279
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    Zoh Chah
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    It did cost us a raid tier, but where on earth are you getting the 2 more raid tiers in XIV from? WoD gave you Highmaul, Blackrock Foundry and Hellfire Citadel, I'm counting 3. Endwalker gave us Asphodelos, Abyssos and whatever the last one will be called, also 3.

    WoD was lacking in basically all content except raids.
    Remember 6.1 for WoW? The Selfie Patch.
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chasingstars View Post
    Remember 6.1 for WoW? The Selfie Patch.
    I read earlier that they're removing Twitter integration that they added alongside that camera. So now we have a camera that doesn't work fully since the selfie pose broke, and the integration gone. RIP any legacy of 6.1.
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