Just like FFXI, make all Artifact armor wearable by all classes

[LordMcMutton]

I'm glad we could come to a full consensus

[Zebraoracle]

...ok so all in all we unanimously agree that all gear should be free game for glam without restriction yes, yes

Why yes I do agree that all non-AF gear should be free for glam. :P

[Atelier-Bagur]

Why yes I do agree that all non-AF gear should be free for glam. :P

haha thats a funny way to say "all gear"

[ty_taurus]

The more this thread goes on, the more it sounds like a cheesy Disney Channel sitcom where the antagonist girl has some kind of party, but only she's allowed to wear blue, and if anyone else wants to wear blue, she throws punch on their dress.

[Midareyukki]

Why yes I do agree that all non-AF gear should be free for glam. :P

I think people are forgetting the part where PvP re-released artifact gear for people at level 1 as a glamour. It's the Virtu Gear. It's still job-locked despite only having the models on them. Would those count as AF or not anymore?

They only have the models, none of the stats nor the ilv. They're not obtained by normal means, you have to buy them with a currency obtained in PvP and not PvE...

All this to say... no it's not "all gear", Zebra's singling out AF gear. Because now we have the Virtu gearsets which do bring this argument into question. When released outside of normal PvE as glamour options and nothing more, do they still count as Artifact gear?

You'll find some people who say it's still considered an Artifact Gear, just for lower level people to wear. Others will say the label shouldn't apply anymore, and thus be unlocked.

[ty_taurus]

I think people are forgetting the part where PvP re-released artifact gear for people at level 1 as a glamour. It's the Virtu Gear. It's still job-locked despite only having the models on them. Would those count as AF or not anymore?

They only have the models, none of the stats nor the ilv. They're not obtained by normal means, you have to buy them with a currency obtained in PvP and not PvE...

All this to say... no it's not "all gear", Zebra's singling out AF gear. Because now we have the Virtu gearsets which do bring this argument into question. When released outside of normal PvE as glamour options and nothing more, do they still count as Artifact gear?

You'll find some people who say it's still considered an Artifact Gear, just for lower level people to wear. Others will say the label shouldn't apply anymore, and thus be unlocked.

Sounds like the perfect solution to me. AF gear can stay locked, but we get level 1 gearsets that looks the same as every AF set that anyone can wear. Everyone wins.

[Midareyukki]

Sounds like the perfect solution to me. AF gear can stay locked, but we get level 1 gearsets that looks the same as every AF set that anyone can wear. Everyone wins.

The fun part about the Virtu sets is that they're dyeable. Meaning that for some, such as the GNB set, you don't need to do Memoria Misera for the dyeable glamour upgrade. Which uhh . w .;; alright then, Square.

I agree that they can stay locked but have Lv 1 gearsets so people can glamour. AF gear is glamour gear for ±97% of its lifetime anyway. I just find it really funny that it makes the EX fight with the emperor feel even less important.

[Zebraoracle]

You know what? I actually wasn't aware of those sets. If they exist, are usable by all jobs, and look exactly like AF gear, then yeah remove the restriction as Square has already done that.

I just honestly wasn't aware those sets existed to begin with (I've said it before, been playing since 2.1 and I learn things about this game all the time). I have no way to verify they exist outside of very tediously looking up vendor inventories on my phone (currently moving across the country so no 14 access), so I'll take Mide's word they exist.

Edit: I was just informed I misunderstood, these sets are still job-locked. So I revert to my previous stance lol

[Atelier-Bagur]

Say it with me like one of those Nickelodeon Jr. shows by clapping your hands together like big dumpy babies (ahem)

"All gear glamour unlock"

[Gemina]

I think people are forgetting the part where PvP re-released artifact gear for people at level 1 as a glamour. It's the Virtu Gear. It's still job-locked despite only having the models on them. Would those count as AF or not anymore?

They only have the models, none of the stats nor the ilv. They're not obtained by normal means, you have to buy them with a currency obtained in PvP and not PvE...

All this to say... no it's not "all gear", Zebra's singling out AF gear. Because now we have the Virtu gearsets which do bring this argument into question. When released outside of normal PvE as glamour options and nothing more, do they still count as Artifact gear?

You'll find some people who say it's still considered an Artifact Gear, just for lower level people to wear. Others will say the label shouldn't apply anymore, and thus be unlocked.

I'm not exactly sure what your point is here. The virtue gear is still locked to the job the AF sets belong to. The self-entitled pushers in this thread very much want the AF gear to be a glamour option regardless of what job they choose to paste that image unto.

The true AF sets aren't glamour locked, you can still glamour them onto any set of sufficient ilv so long as it is the corresponding job. The only issue with that is it can't be used as glamour for sets of gear that are lower than the stat based artifact gear. If your point is there is not much reason for these sets to be locked due to the existence of the virtue gear, this is redundant because by the time you obtain the AF gear, you shouldn't be wearing lower level armor on that job in the first place. This rule doesn't apply to just AF gear, it applies to all gear in the game, which is why when the devs decide to not have job/role restrictions on a set of gear, they typically release them as lv1 glamour gear. However, even with these options, they will still place restrictions on them. Could be race, sex, and even job/role.

If anything, the virtue gear is the dev team doubling down on them not wanting the AF gear to be used by anyone other than the job it belongs to.