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    Avatre Drakone
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    If he comes back, that is quite likely a point where I will say bye to the game. He died, leave him dead, delete any future references to him, and celebrate the most 1-dimensional character is gone.

    Now, if only we could rid ourselves of a certain cat-boi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Now, if only we could rid ourselves of a certain cat-boi.
    even better get rid of all cat boy/girls
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    even better get rid of all cat boy/girls
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    If she looks like this and is this cute and I'd keep her. x3

    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    Tbh I got used to this maniac running around, demanding me to challenge him in a 1v1 PvP duel. So Yeah, I don't think I'll mind him coming back.
    Yoshi-P introduces the "Zenos Everywhere" system. :3

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    No, my baby knows better than that. A lalafel can’t pack all that ass nor do I want to ever see that EVER ;__;
    If a Lalafell can have this deep of a voice, then Zenos can figure out a way to fit all that cake into a single Lala vessal. x)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    If he comes back, that is quite likely a point where I will say bye to the game. He died, leave him dead, delete any future references to him, and celebrate the most 1-dimensional character is gone.
    He became less 1-dimensional towards the end of his tenure as primary antagonist. If you can't see that Zenos was significantly different at his end than from when he was introduced, that's just bias speaking. Not only was fighting the WoL the only thing that ever made him feel alive, he/she was his sole reason for living.

    Of course, this doesn't mean to bring him back. However, it still needs to be acknowledged that Zenos makes a very significant impact on the tale of the WoL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    He became less 1-dimensional towards the end of his tenure as primary antagonist. If you can't see that Zenos was significantly different at his end than from when he was introduced, that's just bias speaking. Not only was fighting the WoL the only thing that ever made him feel alive, he/she was his sole reason for living.

    Of course, this doesn't mean to bring him back. However, it still needs to be acknowledged that Zenos makes a very significant impact on the tale of the WoL.
    We are in agreement. This does not happen often, does it?

    Fact is, Zenos did change quite a bit toward the end. However, the nature of that change is such that bringing him back in any form would devalue it to the point of being moot. The character's story ended in a very appropriate, impactful way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    We are in agreement. This does not happen often, does it?

    Fact is, Zenos did change quite a bit toward the end. However, the nature of that change is such that bringing him back in any form would devalue it to the point of being moot. The character's story ended in a very appropriate, impactful way.
    Indeed. It is possible to disagree and remain civil; even respectful towards the opposing PoV. That tends to go out the window when people try to argue their opinion as a fact, and/or refuse to accept the truth.

    It is a fact that Zenos did undergo development throughout the story, and I do agree that bringing him back would cheapen that. Now where's my minion, Yoshi P?
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    He died, leave him dead, delete any future references to him, and celebrate the most 1-dimensional character is gone.
    Did he Actually "Die" though?
    I mean, we didnt kill him or put him down, all we did was exhaust him and he laid down.

    Now...he doesn't NEED to come back, but Id love it if he did!
    He was a breath of Fresh air, not every freaking character needs to be this big complicated, deep, philosophical tragedy we have to feel sorry for or love.
    Sometimes, a simple bad guy is needed. Sometimes less is More.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Did he Actually "Die" though?
    He did. Both fighters fought to the brink of death, but it was Zenos who succumbed to his injuries. There are a couple of things to take from this fight that let's us know he died. The first is he said vs the WoL he needs bring his all to bear, and that he will burn his candle to the end. The second tell tale sign is that the cutscene shows his breathing cease, indicating that his flame has burned out. Zenos achieved his end goal, and there wasn't anything left for him to live for. There was no reason for him to continue holding onto his existence.

    That said, the WoL also almost died and we see him/her losing consciousness. Even if his/her mind said it was ok to enter eternal sleep at this point, the heart wasn't having any of that. Unlike Zenos, The WoL's heart is full of purpose outside of an ultimate duel with the ultimate foe: Life, love, friends, adventure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    If he comes back, that is quite likely a point where I will say bye to the game. He died, leave him dead, delete any future references to him, and celebrate the most 1-dimensional character is gone.

    Now, if only we could rid ourselves of a certain cat-boi.
    How dare you. He is precious. I would rather get rid of Alisaie,Lyse,Krile. Ranjit.
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