Just like FFXI, make all Artifact armor wearable by all classes

[ZephyrMenodora]

So, since job identity is something that's brought into question as a counter argument to unrestricting gear, that implies that the existing relic armor should be so well-distinguished that they should be identifiable at a glance. So with that in mind, I want to play a game. Below, I've shared 5 different class-specific relic shoes. Without trying to look it up, who wants to take a shot at identifying which boots belong to which jobs?



From left to right, which jobs do these shoes belong to?

Kind of disingenuous compared to iconic chest pieces / helms, etc. Picked the most innocuous part of an outfit that's also often covered up by robes lol. Also besides the point, I'm sure you have shoe options similar to these already you can wear.

[ty_taurus]

Kind of disingenuous compared to iconic chest pieces / helms, etc. Picked the most innocuous part of an outfit that's also often covered up by robes lol. Also besides the point, I'm sure you have shoe options similar to these already you can wear.

How is that disingenuous? Are they not also a part of the iconic job design and are also job restricted? Why deflect the point?

[ZephyrMenodora]

How is that disingenuous? Are they not also a part of the iconic job design and are also job restricted? Why deflect the point?

I didn't deflect, I addressed. You're trying to argue that some people won't be able to tell which sets the shoes are from. I'm assuming the point of this is if that is the case, they aren't "iconic" and should then be open to all jobs to wear.

I said these are the most innocuous part of the outfits, maybe gloves as well. You also picked ones that go under robes and probably aren't even clearly seen by people.

Post again the chest pieces to these sets and ask the same question lol.

(I also think it's irrelevant if some people can identify the gear it all to the topic of it being exclusive.)

Or maybe show the iconic look actually complete: Which class is this?

[ty_taurus]

I didn't deflect, I addressed. You're trying to argue that some people won't be able to tell which sets the shoes are from. I'm assuming the point of this is if that is the case, they aren't "iconic" and should then be open to all jobs to wear.

I said these are the most innocuous part of the outfits, maybe gloves as well. You also picked ones that go under robes and probably aren't even clearly seen by people.

Post again the chest pieces to these sets and ask the same question lol.

First of all, none of the boots I chose actually are covered by the bodywear, and the last two are especially prominent in those designs. If these pieces of equipment are going to be subjected to the same standard of "only one job can wear them because they're too heavily linked to job identity" then they also should be as definable as your standard white robe with red accents, or red pirate attire. If you were as confident as you sound on the job identity argument, you should feel confident in identifying these boots without needing to deflect. If you cannot identify which jobs the boots belong to, then I see no reason for them to have the restrictions you claim will ruin this vague sense of identity you're fighting for, because you apparently wouldn't even be able to identify them if someone actually wore them on the "wrong" job.

Also, as someone posted above, you can already make your WAR look like a BLM if you choose to. All you're doing is gatekeeping.

[ZephyrMenodora]

First of all, none of the boots I chose actually are covered by the bodywear, and the last two are especially prominent in those designs. If these pieces of equipment are going to be subjected to the same standard of "only one job can wear them because they're too heavily linked to job identity" then they also should be as definable as your standard white robe with red accents, or red pirate attire. If you were as confident as you sound on the job identity argument, you should feel confident in identifying these boots without needing to deflect. If you cannot identify which jobs the boots belong to, then I see no reason for them to have the restrictions you claim will ruin this vague sense of identity you're fighting for, because you apparently wouldn't even be able to identify them if someone actually wore them on the "wrong" job.

Also, as someone posted above, you can already make your WAR look like a BLM if you choose to. All you're doing is gatekeeping.

Yawn. Your argument remains weak and you didn't address my point at all. You picked purposely obscure pieces that while complete a look, are not the primary component of it. Try again with a Paladin's shining breastplate. A Summoner's Horn. A White Mages robe. A Dragoon's helm.

Be fair, and keep the outfits acutally together and not photos of icons from the inventory screen. What class is this?