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  1. #41
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    TheGrimace's Avatar
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    Hildibrand's Pocket
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    Knives Jonquil
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    Excalibur
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Regarding level squishing: if they ever wanted to do it to keep the max at 100, the first thing I expect would be to make ARR's level cap 30 rather than the current 50. The base game currently has 50 levels to its bulk, while each expansion only has 10. Simplifying ARR's levels down would make it a little easier by not having to adjust later expansions.
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  2. #42
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    The continuous story that the game has is probably creating some minor issues for new players, as there is quite a bit of content they have go through to reach the current point... And to get the full story, you'd kind of need to stop along the way to do various side quest lines as well, they did reference a lot of them in the 6.0 MSQ stuff...
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  3. #43
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BRVV View Post
    Then new players will not use it because they might like 2.0-6.x and heard that the story is so good. I think many argue for the alternative starting point because we are being told that EW is the end of the story so far and 7.0 will be a new beginning.
    If they've heard that 2.x-6.x is good and they want to play it, then an alternate starting point that overwrites the old story is as much or more of a stumbling block than the offer of a story skip that they don't have to take up if they don't want to. Or they can play properly through the game the first time, and use the skip on an alt.

    A completely separate starting point will cause more damage to the experience of full game players than it will benefit the skippers.

    With a story skip, the skipper accepts that they have fast-forwarded through the early parts of the story and have missed being introduced to the people that their character already knows. 7.0 can easily be providing a "new beginning" in terms of the major plot arc without completely severing ties to what came before.

    If the devs built an alternate story start, then everything they ever write afterwards would have to account for two alternate versions of the player's history, and avoid ever doing anything to disrupt the illusion that the latecomer has missed nothing. In a story where there is a good chunk of appeal in how they continually call back to and build on old plot points and characters, that seems an impossible task, and the people who are willing to skip the older games probably aren't even the ones who would appreciate the finer points of the story anyway.
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  4. #44
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    SillyCrow's Avatar
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    M'yahrah Raha
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    Exodus
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Rather than adding new actions they should just upgrade the existing set to account for holes in the rotation if they exist, otherwise just a straight potency upgrade and new animations.
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  5. #45
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by SillyCrow View Post
    Rather than adding new actions they should just upgrade the existing set to account for holes in the rotation if they exist, otherwise just a straight potency upgrade and new animations.
    That sounds absolutely terrible. haha
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  6. #46
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    Takamorisan's Avatar
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    Takamori Maruyama
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 90
    They would really need to justify with gameplay content to balance it. Not against it but would need something really well traced and done to cover the missing content so to say.
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  7. #47
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    That sounds absolutely terrible. haha
    A lot of the "actions" they added over the years are just re-packaged actions they deleted and gave us back later

    Stonekin- Removed, given back as Divine Benison

    Rouse - Removed, given back as Temperance

    Steel Cyclone - Removed, given back as nascent flash

    etc. etc. etc.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  8. #48
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Rouse - Removed, given back as Temperance
    You sure you don't mean Divine Seal (+30% on healing magic)? Rouse was the SCH/SMN pet buff, which was basically replaced with Seraph for SCH.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 02-16-2023 at 07:16 AM.

  9. #49
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    No more BLU jobs, please.
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  10. #50
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I would be ok with it. If and only if the QOL for all jobs was massive and the leveling for all jobs were overhauled. It would have to greatly give them more time to develop more battle content and balance the jobs better.
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