So, I was playing some other MMOs that I haven't in awhile...

[VelKallor]

Tanis

WOW is old, it feels and looks old, their devs are stuck in the 2004 loop and quite frankly, are bereft of any real imagination or talent. I have commented before on their lack of any real ability to innovate, they are caught up in short term, not long term, the sheer amount of subject matter they had at their fingertips at the end of Legion beggars belief.

Order Halls: abandoned
New Dalaran: abandoned

The possibilities of what they could have done with artifact weapons are endless

Legion was replaced with "Me Orc me no like human, Orc smash", BFA was a complete and utter disaster.

"What is going on with that big sword in Silithus?

Hazzikostas ( his usual smart alec smirk ) "What sword"?

Artifact weapons, for GODS SAKE I had been given the legendary sword that had once belonged to one of their greatest ancestors, Dath'Remar, a heritage that stretched back a thousand years, a sacred relic of incalculable value..what did I do with it?

Toss it into my bank.

I swear, I was shocked that there wasnt a poster of my character in Silvermoon with the words "WANTED, DEAD, FOR HERESY AND DESECRATION" underneath it.

WOW is raid, pvp , m plus and NOTHING ELSE...this was from YouTube

Players destroyed 50% of the game, Blizzard destroyed the other 50%. Gamers aren't playing MMO's to enjoy the experience anymore, they're skipping as much of the "journey" as possible to get to the endgame as fast as possible, get gear maxed as fast as possible for "big damage hur dur." They're creating and using addons that automate as much of the experience as possible to make it as easy (and therefore as fast) as possible. They're datamining every atom of the game code to determine the absolute best possible combination of gear/skill rotations/talents to make sure they're always doing the absolute highest damage possible at all times.

They rush the hell out of every piece of new content that gets released to get to the very end and get the best gear, skipping as much of the content as possible because only the gear at the end matters.

Note that bolded part. Look at any WOW UI, it looks more like a computer systems readout than it does a game, it is polluted with MULTIPLE addons, you are lucky if you see 1/10th of the actual game as the rest is taken up with readouts, dps meters etc.

We DONT want that here.

WOW doesnt respect your time, it doesnt respect its players, one of their actual CM's made the comment that this is "their game , the players are invited guests" ( that pay through the nose )..."our way or the highway". Is it any wonder how many said "the hell with that", and came here.

They've always wanted you to be able to play other games or actually live life outside of a TV or computer screen.

Whereas WOW dev attitude is "keep them playing, and PAYING, as long as possible"

[Thaciscokidd]

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You literally just described every MMO in existence.

[VelKallor]

You literally just described every MMO in existence.

Not by a long shot. Modern MMOs are in fact taking note of changes in the marketplace and adapting accordingly..that of course doesnt include vapourware like Ashes of Creation and Star Citizen..Ill call them MMO's when they actually get released.

If they ever do.

[Thaciscokidd]

Not by a long shot. Modern MMOs are in fact taking note of changes in the marketplace and adapting accordingly..that of course doesnt include vapourware like Ashes of Creation and Star Citizen..Ill call them MMO's when they actually get released.

If they ever do.

I agree with you on the Ashes and StarCitizen, but Modern MMO's tend not to survive long. The only one of the Modern ones that is even relevant today is Lost Ark and that thing is 4yrs old.

If you look at all the top MMO's (however you rank them) the youngest one (barring Lost Ark) is ESO and that game is going on 10 years old.