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    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    I believe it's more the non-sequitor of "just mad", which does detract from the issue at hand. It is not helpful to make this about any specific individual. The loophole exists and how it is exploited and abused should be addressed.
    That's because when you've been asked multiple times to cite specifics about the problem (ie: how many houses would be freed up if the loophole was closed) you deflect, insult, or just ignore the question. Stop pretending you want to have a serious conversation when you're on a crusade, with zero regard for how much or how little it will help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    That's because when you've been asked multiple times to cite specifics about the problem (ie: how many houses would be freed up if the loophole was closed) you deflect, insult, or just ignore the question.
    I'd be most interested to know the specific servers where players are denied fc housing or personal houses because of one person owning half a ward. As of right now, no EU server falls under that category. Even if someone were to buy half of a ward on my server, there would be hundreds more fc plots in all districts combined.
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    Even now in Coeurl you can find at least 20 open plots, as of last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    That's because when you've been asked multiple times to cite specifics about the problem (ie: how many houses would be freed up if the loophole was closed) you deflect, insult, or just ignore the question. Stop pretending you want to have a serious conversation when you're on a crusade, with zero regard for how much or how little it will help.
    It is not deflection when it isn't even relevant to begin with. I'm not sure where you think I've been insulting either. While still not explicitly "moving the goal post" this and posts like it are simply noise at best, mudding the waters at worst. Even if zero houses would be freed up it still doesn't negate the fact that a loophole is being exploited and abused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    Even if zero houses would be freed up it still doesn't negate the fact that a loophole is being exploited and abused.
    There it is. You finally admit it. Even if no one is helped you still want to punish people because its a rule. You are literally missing the entire reason rules exist in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    You are literally missing the entire reason rules exist in the first place.
    So for what reason then do you believe the following rule exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    So for what reason then do you believe the following rule exists?

    To stop house hording and free up more plots. And yet you've just said that even if it doesn't serve that purpose, it should still be followed. You are literally saying a rule should be followed because its a rule. I won't go into all the historical examples of why that's a bad idea, but it is.

    That basically destroyed any hope that you're able to be reasoned with, so I'm out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    To stop house hording and free up more plots.
    Indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    And yet you've just said that even if it doesn't serve that purpose, it should still be followed.
    Well, does it serve that purpose or doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    There it is. You finally admit it. Even if no one is helped you still want to punish people because its a rule. You are literally missing the entire reason rules exist in the first place.
    Closing loops right now = future wards and housing districts will allow for more unique players to own a home, and it will be a positive change for the grand majority of people.
    I don't think people here are expecting SE to go on a holy crusade to remove shell FCs and multi house owners, that would all get grandfathered just like it always has when new housing rules are implemented and enforced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Closing loops right now = future wards and housing districts will allow for more unique players to own a home, and it will be a positive change for the grand majority of people.
    I don't think people here are expecting SE to go on a holy crusade to remove shell FCs and multi house owners, that would all get grandfathered just like it always has when new housing rules are implemented and enforced.
    I don't disagree with the idea of making it harder to have multiple shell FCs. That was more a criticism of him personally. There's only so many times I can be quoted out of context, ignored, and gaslit before my decorum slips. But that's why he's blocked now.

    Also, its incredibly hard to restrict FC housing in a way that can't be circumvented without stepping on individual players who are not actually doing anything wrong. Unless SE is going to go in and manually enforce the "one FC house per server per account" rule, I think this is the best we're going to see.

    Also, none of this would be a problem if they would just make a system where there were enough houses for everyone.
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