Half of a ward being owned by one person

[Jojoya]

He's just got his undies in a bunch. Something must really be bothering him that he's chosen this crusade against multi-owners. First it was RMT, then sub farming, then multi-owning. He also forgets that the things SE writes about regarding housing are guides. There is nothing in the ToS about it. He can't even find it.

I can understand the frustration. The system is allowing some players to get multiple houses while other players have been unable to get a house at all. That should not be happening in a modern MMO unless the developers actively publicize the system as a competitive feature of the game intended to bestow prestige on those lucky enough to get a house.

But he's going about things the wrong way. At best, he's only going to end up getting more threads locked if not deleted.

I have never once attacked other players. I have in fact gone out of my way to make clear this is a game mechanic issue.

Please do not put words in my mouth or take my comments out of context. Thank you.

I haven't put words in your mouth nor taken what you said out of context. Trying reading the sentence you quoted again. I used the word "I", referring to myself. I said nothing about you, nor was it implied to be about you.

[CatStarwind]

I haven't put words in your mouth nor taken what you said out of context. Trying reading the sentence you quoted again. I used the word "I", referring to myself. I said nothing about you, nor was it implied to be about you.

Apology accepted.

[Lakhesys]

He's just got his undies in a bunch. Something must really be bothering him that he's chosen this crusade against multi-owners. First it was RMT, then sub farming, then multi-owning. He also forgets that the things SE writes about regarding housing are guides. There is nothing in the ToS about it. He can't even find it.

Most likely doesn't have the house he wants and has lost every lotto to get the house he wants. Attitude certainly doesn't help, and necroing threads doesn't either.

[ZiraZ]

Most likely doesn't have the house he wants and has lost every lotto to get the house he wants. Attitude certainly doesn't help, and necroing threads doesn't either.

Back to changing goalposts and getting personal, oh yeah the pro rmt and ward hoarders are sure nice people, can't wait until someone starts harassing my fc again!

Housing should be 1 plot per unique individual it's that simple.
I have no problem with grandfathering stuff that already happened but future wards need this change so more unique players can get a plot.

[Stormpeaks]

Back to changing goalposts and getting personal, oh yeah the pro rmt and ward hoarders are sure nice people, can't wait until someone starts harassing my fc again!

Housing should be 1 plot per unique individual it's that simple.
I have no problem with grandfathering stuff that already happened but future wards need this change so more unique players can get a plot.

And how do you enforce that ? Me and one or two other people already explained to you that it's impossible to do it. You cant block people from making new accounts, and you cant block people from getting houses on said new accounts.

[Lakhesys]

Back to changing goalposts and getting personal, oh yeah the pro rmt and ward hoarders are sure nice people, can't wait until someone starts harassing my fc again!

Housing should be 1 plot per unique individual it's that simple.
I have no problem with grandfathering stuff that already happened but future wards need this change so more unique players can get a plot.

When were the goalposts changed?

[CatStarwind]

I believe it's more the non-sequitor of "just mad", which does detract from the issue at hand. It is not helpful to make this about any specific individual. The loophole exists and how it is exploited and abused should be addressed.

[Jojoya]

Back to changing goalposts and getting personal, oh yeah the pro rmt and ward hoarders are sure nice people, can't wait until someone starts harassing my fc again!

Housing should be 1 plot per unique individual it's that simple.
I have no problem with grandfathering stuff that already happened but future wards need this change so more unique players can get a plot.

Do you have numbers on how many unique players that want a plot still do not have one?

We can't use total number of entries as the number since entries frequently include players trying to relocate their current house or obtain a house for an additional character. With many wards now being mixed purchase on all but the new worlds, we also can't separate out FC entries from personal entries in those wards.

Considering the number of available plots across all of NA right now, it seems unlikely that number is very high. Those who want a house have the opportunity. If they're not taking advantage of the opportunity, seems like they really don't want a house after all.

To address some of the common retorts I know are coming:

Keeping someone from buying a plot for an alt on a lower population world is not going to suddenly make a supply of plots available on the congested worlds for those who want a house but can't be bothered to transfer their character(s).

Data center travel does work when it comes to playing with friends and FC. I'm seeing more and more Travelers out and about in the open world doing content. I'm continuing to see players from other data centers showing up in my roulettes. It does make it an effective option for those who want to continue playing with friends but also get a house.

SE does not benefit from having mostly empty wards when the purpose of using the ward system was to create a feeling of neighborhood and community. That feeling does not happen when most plots sit vacant. If the players who claim they want a house won't transfer to where the available plots are, then there's no reason to prevent players looking for an additional plot for an alt from purchasing one for the sake of getting the wards filled up to get those neighborhoods created.

SE did at least do one things smart - they have left wards 25-30 on the new worlds unavailable for purchase for the time being. As the currently available plots fill up on those worlds, they can slowly open the new wards one or two at a time instead of ending up with a bunch of barely used wards.

Can it be they'll start using that as the system for ward additions in the future? We can hope but one thing seems certain. They're still not going to add enough wards for the presumed demand on the congested worlds. They're only going to continue to add more wards when there is need on most worlds.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

I believe it's more the non-sequitor of "just mad", which does detract from the issue at hand. It is not helpful to make this about any specific individual. The loophole exists and how it is exploited and abused should be addressed.

That's because when you've been asked multiple times to cite specifics about the problem (ie: how many houses would be freed up if the loophole was closed) you deflect, insult, or just ignore the question. Stop pretending you want to have a serious conversation when you're on a crusade, with zero regard for how much or how little it will help.

[Reinha]

That's because when you've been asked multiple times to cite specifics about the problem (ie: how many houses would be freed up if the loophole was closed) you deflect, insult, or just ignore the question.

I'd be most interested to know the specific servers where players are denied fc housing or personal houses because of one person owning half a ward. As of right now, no EU server falls under that category. Even if someone were to buy half of a ward on my server, there would be hundreds more fc plots in all districts combined.