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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    I think they ALL should get an own theme, minion and TT card.

    Feels bad to have basically picked the wrong deity. Nymeia does not even get her own fight.
    They're not even deities, so it's all moot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    They're not even deities, so it's all moot.
    Actually, what are they?

    Yes, I'm aware they're the deified members of Venat's little consortium. But does this mean they are Primals like her (beings empowered by aether, but molded by prayer), or are they just similar to Eikons but with a twist?

    Same with the Heavens. Supposedly the Omphalos is in an area high above Silvertear Lake, but where are the Heavens? Because surely someone would have noticed a massive moon and its lesser companion. Even if they were cloaked, the gravitational effects would have made Astrologians feel something's odd. Same for the World Tree or the Spire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Actually, what are they?

    Yes, I'm aware they're the deified members of Venat's little consortium. But does this mean they are Primals like her (beings empowered by aether, but molded by prayer), or are they just similar to Eikons but with a twist?

    Same with the Heavens. Supposedly the Omphalos is in an area high above Silvertear Lake, but where are the Heavens? Because surely someone would have noticed a massive moon and its lesser companion. Even if they were cloaked, the gravitational effects would have made Astrologians feel something's odd. Same for the World Tree or the Spire.
    I believe Primals and Eikons are one of the same. Hydaelyn and Zodiark each had an ancient serve as their hearts, but they are still primals. As for the Twelve, there is still more to learn about them. It could be possible that like Hydaelyn and Zodiark, there are members among the ancients that are their hearts, but they have sworn up and down that they are not primals. We do know that Dynamis plays a huge role as far as their appearance and power. They apparently don't need an abundance of crystals to retain their form, but they do rely heavily on prayer.

    The heavens are of their own design. The ancients have shown that they are essentially gods, and are renowned with their creation magicks. Omphalos functions as a hub that grants those they allow passage into their realms. While Omphalos exists above Silvertear, the heavens themselves could be just about anywhere, and may not even be physical manifestations. That's purely speculation though, and we are really just going to have to wait to see how this tale concludes to get the answers we seek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Actually, what are they?

    Yes, I'm aware they're the deified members of Venat's little consortium. But does this mean they are Primals like her (beings empowered by aether, but molded by prayer), or are they just similar to Eikons but with a twist?

    Same with the Heavens. Supposedly the Omphalos is in an area high above Silvertear Lake, but where are the Heavens? Because surely someone would have noticed a massive moon and its lesser companion. Even if they were cloaked, the gravitational effects would have made Astrologians feel something's odd. Same for the World Tree or the Spire.
    My theory is the phantom realm is something of a shelter they hid in during the sundering (a remnant of Elpis) and Hydaelyn's absence has allowed the entrance to become accessible. It would be hard to notice anything amiss if it were there the whole time.
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