Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[Midareyukki]

I have not been harassed but I have the feeling were I to attempt savage I would be for not having any savage logs first and then about the numbers already present on FFlogs. My point is about parsers already being used outside of savage and people already unknowingly having their performance evaluated and published in content where it is absolutely unnecessary. It's also about the stance SE taking right now allows raiders to use tools to evaluate their performance as long as they are discreet while also allowing SE to take action against their use in content where performance is not as important.

Well, people have been explaining why they do so ever since I replied to you initially. You seemed to have skipped over those o: It doesn't seem to be "unimportant", there is a reason for it.

I recommend reading the previous page, so you listen directly from people who raid. They know their practices the best, so if anyone can tell you what happens vs what doesn't, it's them. No need to live in the fear of a possibility that likely won't happen.

Either way, those logs in non-raiding content will not be used against you. No one looks at those.
And even raiders who do look at raiding parses to welcome people do so in specific circumstances, namely when they're forming a group to do more than clear/farm a content. They'll check if your parses are good because their purpose is to get high parses, and that tends to be explicitly stated in PF. Otherwise, even hardcore raiders who do stuff in PF with randoms know they shouldn't expect excellence.

And any one who uses your parses against you so overtly is just risking a ban. At that point it's not a case of raider/casual, parser/non-parser. It's a case of extreme idiocy of their part xD

[Shialan]

It doesn't really help when most players aren't dumb enough to actually voice their grievances with another and instead just wordlessly remove them from the party so they have no grounds for punishment.

You don't even need ACT for that. I had a Manalis run a couple of days ago where one of the DPS either had MASSIVE skill issues or was openly a bot. He would move into AoEs, wrote meaningless stuff in chat and would mostly autoattack the bosses.



There are millions of ways to see that someone is not pulling their weight without using ACT. Mainly through knowledge of that job, the rotation and the skill animations.

[Themarvin]

They don't need to add a program that detects it.... they just need to stop the flow out from the servers that people can read and put into ACT and the likes, SE just need to stop any combat logs pouring out other than saying what you from.

[Rhael]

they just need to stop the flow out from the servers that people can read and put into ACT and the likes

Ah yes, all SE has to do is make an online game that doesn't use network packets. Brilliant! :V

[Dzonathan]

They're not wrong. This forum can be so, so reductive at times with their discussion, it's almost depressing to witness sometimes.

I feel like this is the case only because of impression both games give.

WoW has a cartoony, jagged and wonky art style while the races are ultimately fugly barbarians.
Of course you expect negativity pouring from all those ugly mouths like you would from trailer trash people.

FFXIV has a pretty, slick aesthetic while all races look well groomed and fair.
The fact that they start spewing same kind of vitrol is a jarring contrast.

The toxicity of the both forums is more or less equal.
FFXIV is just more noticable because it comes from pretty mouths.

[Themarvin]

Ah yes, all SE has to do is make an online game that doesn't use network packets. Brilliant! :V

Encryption of the data does exist as a feature as for packets and the likes.

[Rhael]

Encryption of the data does exist as a feature as for packets and the likes.

The client still needs to decrypt them into a readable format.

[SassyAssassin]

Since I can’t understand crap about pcs, had to read what else such a program would impact, so yeah definitely against.

[Absimiliard]

Encryption of the data does exist as a feature as for packets and the likes.

They would have to rebuild practically the entire engine to make this work, not to mention the servers and several other things. It would require a significant investment of time, manpower, and resources. SE has none of these three things at the moment.

[VelKallor]

Reddit :

Bad choice:

Has a downvote feature that is MASSIVELY abused, which also has a cute little timout mechanism that SILENCES you whilst you are dogpiled. HOW DARE YOU disagree with me??? Ill downvote you until it shuts you up

Reddit is a hivemind, dare to have a contrary opinion and that cute little centre of "enlightened discussion" will slap a gag on your mouth that wont allow you to respond whilst you are reviled, belittled, insulted and sworn at. The mods that run the subreddits arent any better and run their areas like dictators.

Fair? Balanced? REDDIT??

NO.

and Discord are far better communities.

Run by mods who will silence, kick and ban you for spurious reasons.

Sorry, no.