For the love of god just increase the tomestone/uncap raids the patch after savage.

[Deveryn]

I can't believe people are actually taking me saying this is the whole community as a legit serious reply and not a sarcastic response to whenever someone has some sort of form of criticism at the devs. The devs cant do wrong! Thats sarcasm btw

Believe me, no one has taken you seriously, but if you want to be taken seriously or seriously want change, get your shit together and come up with some solid feedback.

[Kazhar]

Believe me, no one has taken you seriously, but if you want to be taken seriously or seriously want change, get your shit together and come up with some solid feedback.

Can you define "solid feedback"?
"Gearing up alts in 8 months isn't fun to me" is solid feedback. The devs don't need anything else really, players shouldn't be the ones to design solutions. (they don't have the whole picture, they don't know their internal limitations etc.)

[SorrowsEnd]

Believe me, no one has taken you seriously, but if you want to be taken seriously or seriously want change, get your shit together and come up with some solid feedback.

My feedback isn't solid because it doesn't fit your narrative. I've been ignoring you because you've contributed about as much as the titanman dude's posts. At least his is funny you're just a joke.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Can you define "solid feedback"?
"Gearing up alts in 8 months isn't fun to me" is solid feedback. The devs don't need anything else really, players shouldn't be the ones to design solutions. (they don't have the whole picture, they don't know their internal limitations etc.)

I don't understand logic like this. Telling someone there's an issue then going "not up to me to come up with a solution" doesn't help. Your feedback would be MORE solid if you did give ways to fix said issue you have. It's up to the devs to see what they have going on and then seeing if they can implement this stuff. Just a tip is all

[Nyxs]

Making it so people can gear up more jobs on a character is a good thing. Maybe even make more ways to get poetics as while gearing up new characters it was a challenge sometimes to get poetics to get stuff.

[Deveryn]

Can you define "solid feedback"?
"Gearing up alts in 8 months isn't fun to me" is solid feedback. The devs don't need anything else really, players shouldn't be the ones to design solutions. (they don't have the whole picture, they don't know their internal limitations etc.)

They do need more. They need some idea of what would actually be better. If you just leave it up to them, they'll pick something that you probably won't like. As I mentioned, I actually made a proposal for a specific way to gear up alt jobs.

My feedback isn't solid because it doesn't fit your narrative. I've been ignoring you because you've contributed about as much as the titanman dude's posts. At least his is funny you're just a joke.

You've offered no feedback here. You talk about people taking a shit and ramble on about other crap. WTactualF is someone supposed to do with that? What great new addition comes from such garbage?

[Kazhar]

I don't understand logic like this. Telling someone there's an issue then going "not up to me to come up with a solution" doesn't help. Your feedback would be MORE solid if you did give ways to fix said issue you have. It's up to the devs to see what they have going on and then seeing if they can implement this stuff. Just a tip is all

Players are notoriously awful at knowing what they want, but they're the best at identifying a problem. This isn't just true for gaming but many fields with a client/designer relationship.
Suggestions can be good, but there are also times when a client telling you how to do your job is more distracting than it's useful. But anyway, I'm not the one gatekeeping feedback here, I was just saying that just giving your opinion is already good enough. We have no need for self-appointed internet police.

[SorrowsEnd]

They do need more. They need some idea of what would actually be better. If you just leave it up to them, they'll pick something that you probably won't like. As I mentioned, I actually made a proposal for a specific way to gear up alt jobs.



You've offered no feedback here. You talk about people taking a shit and ramble on about other crap. WTactualF is someone supposed to do with that? What great new addition comes from such garbage?

You failed to read what I posted apparently you pick and choose what you wanted to see. You're just a waste of time at least other people offered responses of substance even if they disagreed with what I stated. Respectfully learn to read before you call someone out and especially if you plan on calling someone insane. Have a great day.

[Deveryn]

You failed to read what I posted apparently you pick and choose what you wanted to see. You're just a waste of time at least other people offered responses of substance even if they disagreed with what I stated. Respectfully learn to read before you call someone out and especially if you plan on calling someone insane. Have a great day.

I legit can't see it because you talk too much nonsense

[DixieBellOCE]

This is complete nonsense. People have offered real feedback. It gets drowned out often times by people who don't even participate in the very content being discussed. The direction here is relatively simple: unlock Savage in either the odd patch cycle or the subsequent patch thereafter (6.35 in this case) if they have to stretch it out just a little longer for whatever reason. Likewise, increase the tome cap during that same patch. It doesn't necessarily need to double but be something to help ease gearing alt jobs.

If they wanted to go a step further, have the 24 man gear be upgradeable through a Savage drop or something, thus giving a genuine alternative to gear progression. Or how about putting gear in Criterion so it has relevancy? You certainly can't claim people haven't offered that feedback. Just about every outline platform had several threads bemoaning the lackluster rewards.

Not to mention half the people who who argue against it don't even do endgame content, they just don't want people to enjoy the game.

This doesn't affect them in any way, it just makes the post-patch content drought more bearable for people that want to continue playing the game.