Would you be opposed to SE implementing a program to scan for addons/parsers?

[HikariKurosawa]

How is it "fraudulent"??? You don't even know waht that word means. If I am in a parse after asking the party to let me know if they are using addons, it means they didn't respect my experience the way you people suggest you would. I'm not sure how you would exactly go about respectfully using addons because, you don't ask if it's okay because that would result in you being banned. You don't let others know you are using addons if you are asked, because that would result in you getting banned.

The only way for me to get you actioned is to report all the people present in the parse excluding myself. Then square enix will have to do an investigation and either do nothing, or ban the people breaking the ToS. The fact is at least one of the people reported should be banned according the rules. There's no reason to not mass report everyone on fflogs by this logic, but I'm only going to do it for the people who end up parsing me after I ask for them to respectfully leave group or turn off addons for the run they are involving me in.

Imagine twisting dialogue and pretending you're on the side of righteousness by throwing around words you don't even understand. It's a tricky issue to tackle because you cheaters are so sneaky and dishonest about it. If it is annoying enough for square enix to deal with the mass reporting, maybe they will have to step up their policy.

[Iyrnthota]

How is it "fraudulent"??? You don't even know waht that word means. If I am in a parse after asking the party to let me know if they are using addons, it means they didn't respect my experience the way you people suggest you would. I'm not sure how you would exactly go about respectfully using addons because, you don't ask if it's okay because that would result in you being banned. You don't let others know you are using addons if you are asked, because that would result in you getting banned.

The only way for me to get you actioned is to report all the people present in the parse excluding myself. Then square enix will have to do an investigation and either do nothing, or ban the people breaking the ToS. The fact is at least one of the people reported should be banned according the rules. There's no reason to not mass report everyone on fflogs by this logic, but I'm only going to do it for the people who end up parsing me after I ask for them to respectfully leave group or turn off addons for the run they are involving me in.

Imagine twisting dialogue and pretending you're on the side of righteousness by throwing around words you don't even understand. It's a tricky issue to tackle because you cheaters are so sneaky and dishonest about it. If it is annoying enough for square enix to deal with the mass reporting, maybe they will have to step up their policy.

In my experience with basically anything that has a reporting function, a single person mass reporting typically results in a punishment for said person.
Especially if you're reporting based on maybes and supposes.

[HikariKurosawa]

In my experience with basically anything that has a reporting function, a single person mass reporting typically results in a punishment for said person.
Especially if you're reporting based on maybes and supposes.

So how would I single out the rule breaker then? 7 people is a narrow enough pool for square to deal with. It's not that difficult to do. I'm sure they will streamline an investigation method for accounts that are labeled as suspicious for being reported for addon use. There's no reason for a full blown anti-cheat as long as people are being policed for addons regularly. Enough permabans go out and you won't break the rules any longer. You can always go back to WoW where cheating isn't against the ToS.

[Iyrnthota]

I'm sure they will streamline an investigation method

lol
lmao even

[HikariKurosawa]

lol
lmao even

You think it's hard? Account gets flagged as suspicious for third party tool use > client receives update that scans computer for addons > no detect after surveillance period ends? client update to remove anti-cheat.

If you are flagged for suspicious activity, you can get a temp anti-cheat. Or quit the game if you don't wanna deal with that on your computer. No reason everyone has to deal with it, no reason it has to be permanent. As long as cheaters are banned regularly the problem will go away naturally over time.

[Iyrnthota]

client receives update that scans computer for addons.

Stop, please, I'm dying

[Shialan]

Some serious delusional stuff

If I had to decide between giving modders free rein of the game and inflexible and intolerant people like you, then I would choose the former 100/100 times.

[TomsYoungerBro]

So how would I single out the rule breaker then?

You don't. Thats the point XD

[Midareyukki]

So how would I single out the rule breaker then?

You can always go back to WoW, because throwing insults at people is also against our ToS but you keep calling others stuff.

Anyway, you want Rule Breaker, here u go

[Rilifane]

You can always go back to WoW, because throwing insults at people is also against our ToS but you keep calling others stuff.

Can we please stop treating WoW like the garbage bin for unsavory folks like them? We don't want them over there either. How about they just don't infest any MMO community?
(Also, the WoW forum is actually very civil. More civil than this one at times)