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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    This trait is commonplace on the forums and one you share as well.
    No. When people disagree with me, I often say I don't see it that way and that I disagree. If people insist and especially resort to bull logic, then yes, that's when I treat them that way for being brainless. Example: "I already told you that the development team did something this way for XYZ reasons, why are you still insisting they do otherwise? Those reasons are there, take 'em. Don't want to take them? Then you're obtuse." Simple as.

    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Weren't you not interested in being reasonable? I seem to remember you admitting to that. Did you have a change of heart in the past couple weeks?
    Yes, I did. It's called "growing up". I just ended up realizing "Honestly, not worth it". Can't I mellow out and change my mind?

    Plus, I'm fairly certain you're taking that out of context anyway, I likely said that over a specific topic, not overall.

    Besides, why are you preaching over being reasonable when you yourself unreasonably called people who disagreed with Aveyond-Dreams potential puppy-kickers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    No. When people disagree with me, I often say I don't see it that way and that I disagree. If people insist and especially resort to bull logic, then yes, that's when I treat them that way for being brainless. Example: "I already told you that the development team did something this way for XYZ reasons, why are you still insisting they do otherwise? Those reasons are there, take 'em. Don't want to take them? Then you're obtuse." Simple as.



    Yes, I did. It's called "growing up". I just ended up realizing "Honestly, not worth it". Can't I mellow out and change my mind?

    Plus, I'm fairly certain you're taking that out of context anyway, I likely said that over a specific topic, not overall.

    Besides, why are you preaching over being reasonable when you yourself unreasonably called people who disagreed with Aveyond-Dreams potential puppy-kickers?
    Don't bother with her buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Its kinda of a given when the sig theyre using is an attack on forum posters btw.



    No, they just edited it. Now it's a clearly modded screenshot. How bold of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    Besides, why are you preaching over being reasonable when you yourself unreasonably called people who disagreed with Aveyond-Dreams potential puppy-kickers?
    Genuine question. Do you possess the ability to read? I'm struggling to see how you could have reached this conclusion had you actually read a word I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    No, they just edited it. Now it's a clearly modded screenshot. How bold of them.
    There's this lovely tool on the internet called Google Images. It can provide you with lots of cool pictures to use as you please.
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    This expansion has been a swing and a miss with every new feature and redesign of old ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Genuine question. Do you possess the ability to read? I'm struggling to see how you could have reached this conclusion had you actually read a word I said.



    There's this lovely tool on the internet called Google Images. It can provide you with lots of cool pictures to use as you please.



    I never claimed who modded it. All I said was its a clearly modded image.


    I'd be careful posting that though, since it, you know, has SEs copyright on it and isn't actually in the game. That's why they went after all those Twitter users after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    What i hate teh most is that all the grindy stuff that would kill time perfectly comes so late, its almost poinltess... like im on 15/18 ilv 625 weapons... why i again should i bother the most likely 625 relic, even if it has max stats, if its just for literally 3-4 weeks at most...
    This is honestly my issue.

    I don't do Ultimates and barely do Savages. So when a big new patch releases...there's very little there sometimes. Sometimes there's more than others, but a lot of times it's just "I guess you can do the story then...grind the Extreme over and over, I guess?"

    Then, they release all the grindy stuff later.

    To me, you should release the grindy stuff first, then the "one time" (or few times) content. This way, people have the grindy stuff to fall back on when they get bored or run out of content to do. By doing the one-time/few-time clear stuff first, sure, people run headlong into it, but after a few weeks, they're done with it and...then what? They wait over a month before the grindy stuff comes out (like Relics, Deep Dungeon, or Expedition zones). But if the latter were released first, people could grind on it, about the time they start getting bored (since it's a longer time horizon kind of content), you drop the raid tiers and Ultimates and stuff, people plow into that for a few weeks, then when they finish, the grindy content is there on pause for them to roll right back into.

    And for the people that don't do the raid game, they have the grindy stuff to work on the entire time (for many people, Relic farming and the like IS their end-game), as opposed to the present cadence, where those people do the new story stuff, some do Extremes for a week or two, then they have nothing to do for months. Or worse, the people that don't even do Extremes, as they have literally no new content to do for months. While the game does have an expansive backlog/catalogue of stuff to do, people do like new stuff.

    I dunno, I just feel they should reverse the order. When 6.3 hit, they probably already have all the Deep Dungeon stuff ready to go. Holding it for 6.35 is entirely a decision, not a mechanical requirement. And even if it WAS, they could simply bump that content in priority over Ultimates so it'd be done first then drop the Ultimate in 6.35 instead. Savage patches it's a little more of a fight (though casual players have 8 man normals to run there, at least, which have at least slightly more replay value to most people than 24 mans), the non-Savage patches should honestly reverse the order they release stuff. We could have Deep Dungeon to play for 4 months and 2 months in get the 24 man. Instead we got the 24 man first and run it for ~1 hour one day a week and then...twiddle our thumbs for two months...

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    Note that this is LESS of an issue if you have something big like an Expedition zone from a previous patch. For example, in 4.25, we got Anemos, so Pagos not being until 4.35 wasn't AS big a problem as people still had Anemos to work on. Likewise, when we got Southern Front in Bozja, we had something to grind on, at least until we maxed out everything there we wanted. But there was stuff to do.

    In 6.35, we don't have a 6.25 big grindy content thing to do unless you could Island Sanctuary...which I don't since it has no connection to anything outside of itself (by design) and isn't some fun grand adventure like Eureka was that led to something. I honestly wish they'd never added it because of how much we've lost out because of it existing. I'm happy it's there for the people that like...Animal Crossing, I guess?...but it's robbed us of all the stuff I normally find myself doing.

    I'm bullish on FFXIV and constantly white knighting this game, but even I do feel things are a little slow compared to normal expansions. There are a lot of factors that go into that, but not having an Exploration zone at this point in the expansion's patch cycle is something I'm really feeling...
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    Last edited by Renathras; 02-08-2023 at 06:27 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Genuine question. Do you possess the ability to read? I'm struggling to see how you could have reached this conclusion had you actually read a word I said.



    There's this lovely tool on the internet called Google Images. It can provide you with lots of cool pictures to use as you please.
    Oh you actually changed it. What happened to the Forum White Knights sig you had before, did you finally get in trouble or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Oh you actually changed it. What happened to the Forum White Knights sig you had before, did you finally get in trouble or something?
    No, I just had it for a while and decided I wanted something else. Same thing I did with the mahjority one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    grindy stuff first
    They'll never do this with the story being such a focus. (They'd have to change up the posters to highlight what you get to grind next ) Maybe it would be better for you to just wait for .x5 to drop and come back and have all the things to do.
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