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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    If Quickened Aetherflow came back, Aetherflow would be restored every 45s instead of 60s, which would mean SCH doesn't burst at 2min anymore. 'We can't have that!' says SE. Unless they don't look at Aetherflow as a damage resource, but a healing resource, in which case... maybe?

    BTW, while we're on the topic, is there like... any lore on why Seraph is a thing? Or more accurately, is there any lore that says it's another form of Lily, the fairy we summon? Because to my knowledge, there's not, it's a seperate entity, in which case, why can't we have Eos/Selene stay out and just have 'Summon Seraph' as a second fairy-being that comes out as a CD? That way, while it'd be kind of a janky hack workaround, we'd retain access to Fey Blessing, Union, Dissipation, etc. Can keep all of the Fairy skills (W.Dawn, Fey Illum) originating from the standard fairy, the Seraph versions are functionally identical anyway, just have the original fairy use them (no ghosting accidents) and not Seraph (so you can't get double Whispering Dawn out). Then change Seraph's Veil from 'some heal and some shield' to 'all shield', since standard Embrace will still be happening. Consolation still originates from Seraph as you'd expect. You could even have like, 'Fey Union does the tether from Eos/Selene, and forces Seraph to focus Veil casting on that target'. So not a tether from Seraph, but a command to focus on one person (presumably the tank), while still being able to interrupt her Veil spam with a Consolation cast.

    Also it'd be very cool and 'identity' to have two fairy helpers out on the field as our 'super mode'
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    If Quickened Aetherflow came back, Aetherflow would be restored every 45s instead of 60s, which would mean SCH doesn't burst at 2min anymore. 'We can't have that!' says SE. Unless they don't look at Aetherflow as a damage resource, but a healing resource, in which case... maybe?

    BTW, while we're on the topic, is there like... any lore on why Seraph is a thing? Or more accurately, is there any lore that says it's another form of Lily, the fairy we summon? Because to my knowledge, there's not, it's a seperate entity, in which case, why can't we have Eos/Selene stay out and just have 'Summon Seraph' as a second fairy-being that comes out as a CD? That way, while it'd be kind of a janky hack workaround, we'd retain access to Fey Blessing, Union, Dissipation, etc. Can keep all of the Fairy skills (W.Dawn, Fey Illum) originating from the standard fairy, the Seraph versions are functionally identical anyway, just have the original fairy use them (no ghosting accidents) and not Seraph (so you can't get double Whispering Dawn out). Then change Seraph's Veil from 'some heal and some shield' to 'all shield', since standard Embrace will still be happening. Consolation still originates from Seraph as you'd expect. You could even have like, 'Fey Union does the tether from Eos/Selene, and forces Seraph to focus Veil casting on that target'. So not a tether from Seraph, but a command to focus on one person (presumably the tank), while still being able to interrupt her Veil spam with a Consolation cast.

    Also it'd be very cool and 'identity' to have two fairy helpers out on the field as our 'super mode'
    On the topic of burst windows, we'll have to wait and see what happens come 7.0. I realize we as healers are quite jaded at the treatment of our role over the last 6 years or so, but the burst meta thing is a big discussion point not only within a narrow crowd, but is also largely criticized by virtually every media tour attendee level content creator, at least from what I've seen. EW's stagnant state is something I imagine the team is aware of, but can't really speak on until change is set in stone. Sure the PLD rework was all about making PLD work within the burst meta, but changing that is likely not something they have the resources for prior to 7.0, so it's probably more of a temporary solution. I won't say with confidence that the team will respond in a way that will be better or worse, but I find it hard to believe that they won't respond in some fashion. I genuinely believe 7.0 is going to be a different landscape somehow. Time will only tell what that spells for job design as a whole, as well as the healers.

    As for Seraph, I think there's a coding issue with having more than one pet at a time. It's an issue that Yoshida would probably describe as "impossible" but is actually doable if they put in the work to fix it. I think this is key to making Carbuncle more than just window dressing on SMN, but I have no clue what the best way to handle it on SCH is. It's such a prominent asset that was created that I can't see them taking it away no matter the circumstances. I think that decision also would be received poorly by the general audience for SCH.

    Perhaps it should be more like SMN's Ifrit/Garuda/Titan where Seraph shows up, performs an attack, and then vanishes, leaving you with 2 charges of Consolation for the SCH to use across that 2 minute window until her next summon as a DPS resource.
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