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  1. #201
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    Heroman3003's Avatar
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    Lauren Zackson
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    Just for you it will be pvp taking place in island sanctuaries
    Tower-defense style uneven PvP? Honestly would be pretty cool. One side defends island, other attacks.
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  2. #202
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    They should spend the effort to make Ultimates to have a Savage Tier every patch and/or multiple Extremes.
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  3. #203
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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    [PvP taking place in island sanctuaries] would make an awesome hunger-style game tbh.
    Now I'm wondering if you mean a Battle Royale with increasingly small divisions, or specifically one in which a hunger mechanic plays a part and cannibalism may be permitted...
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  4. #204
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    Feronar Bloodfang
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    My suggestion for Ultimates going forward would be to require any team competing for world first to meet the following conditions in order to be recognized:
    • All player on the raid team must live-stream their gameplay on Twitch or other established streaming sites.
    • The entirety of the attempt must be streamed, from pull to kill.
    • The entire gameplay screen must be shown, with no cropping.
    • The entire gameplay screen area must be free of any visual obstructions, i.e. face-cams, Twitch chat windows, team logos, sponsor logos, etc.
    • All gameplay audio and team voice chat must be plainly audible and streamed as-is, with no outside music or other sounds added to the stream.
    This wouldn't eliminate cheating, but it would make it more difficult.
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  5. #205
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feronar View Post
    My suggestion for Ultimates going forward would be to require any team competing for world first to meet the following conditions in order to be recognized:
    • All player on the raid team must live-stream their gameplay on Twitch or other established streaming sites.
    • The entirety of the attempt must be streamed, from pull to kill.
    • The entire gameplay screen must be shown, with no cropping.
    • The entire gameplay screen area must be free of any visual obstructions, i.e. face-cams, Twitch chat windows, team logos, sponsor logos, etc.
    • All gameplay audio and team voice chat must be plainly audible and streamed as-is, with no outside music or other sounds added to the stream.
    This wouldn't eliminate cheating, but it would make it more difficult.
    Aaaaand also they must all play on consoles c:
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  6. #206
    Player Ivtrix's Avatar
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Aaaaand also they must all play on consoles c:
    they must also be willing to random search checks from angry people on twitter
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  7. #207
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Now I'm wondering if you mean a Battle Royale with increasingly small divisions, or specifically one in which a hunger mechanic plays a part and cannibalism may be permitted...
    Both actually. It is a free for all battle royal. You start with a large group of players with a fix amount of supply that diminish overtime. Once your supply run out you eventually run out of HP and die (can't be heal).

    In the beginning phase people usually to battle it out to steal supply from each others so they can last longer later. Once the herd is thin out and everyone have a bit supply it becomes a bit more strategic. People goes into hiding and pick their battle a bit more carefully. If you have a good haul already you would try to hide. But someone else may go on a luck streak and now have more supply than you, now you're force to hunt them down.

    So hide and seek, stalking, ambushing, opportunistic strike are all part of the games.
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  8. #208
    Player PetThisMiqo's Avatar
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    Voidsent Catte
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    Maduin
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    Of course they did! The hardcore elitists community cheated at the very content that they demand Square Enix to produce for them. The creation of these fights is an enormous labor of love. Square creates this very content for a small minority purely out of consideration and care for even the smallest groups within their game's enormous community. In return these players spat on Square Enix by using cheats to satisfy their toxic egos, insulting all of the hard efforts that went into the creation of the fight. The developers at Square Enix are rightful hurt by these actions and in response they have all the right to terminate the production of future content like this should the behavior continue. Be warned cheating elitists that Square will not tolerate your poor behavior forever.
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  9. #209
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    Damian Ravenhold
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    Quote Originally Posted by _forgotten View Post
    Or am I reading too much into Yoship's "If you use cheats in hard content, what is the point" remark in his statement?
    Meh yeah but no. YoshiP views the game inherently different from us since we see the game only from the consumer side. He sees the process of developing the fight and trying to make a challenge that is extremely difficult but also something that should be complete able without third party tools.

    Problem is that some mechanics are just fucking abysmal in Ultimate PF. I haven't started my prog of TOP yet, but I am not looking forward to PF'ing it. Even on UWU, I have not had a single clear where someone didn't bring the melons. To YoshiP, it probably takes away from the joy of defeating such hard content, personally idgaf since Ultimates are still fucking hard with the tools soooo it just comes down to your own personal take.
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  10. #210
    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Arome Framboise
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    Moogle
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThroatDeep View Post
    This may have been some emotion. I would feel similar if I was on a dev team and players just cheated through my content while I spent however many hours developing a raid for players who want "hard content", only to get slapped in the face afterwords.
    the point is that even with cheats, hard content, remain very very hard
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