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    It's extremely likely, considering how tightly the dps checks are tuned for week 1 savage and how they know precisely the impact of minor potencies change in the overall job balance, that the dev team uses internal dps meter tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    It's extremely likely, considering how tightly the dps checks are tuned for week 1 savage and how they know precisely the impact of minor potencies change in the overall job balance, that the dev team uses internal dps meter tools.
    "The devs must be using dps meters since I can't do it without them" They said outright they did it without any third party tools. I know that you might think they used the wording "third party tools" to hide that they use "internal dps meter tools", but the point of that statement and test was to prove that it's possible for players to complete it with the tools they have access to by default. No player has access to any "internal dps meter tools", so for all intents and purposes in this context it is safe to assume that they didn't use their own official damage meters. I don't doubt that they have them, because they have to test the game balance, but I don't believe they were used when they were testing to see if the content could be cleared without third party addons. That would defeat the entire purpose of the test and statement that it can be cleared without third party addons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    "The devs must be using dps meters since I can't do it without them" They said outright they did it without any third party tools. I know that you might think they used the wording "third party tools" to hide that they use "internal dps meter tools", but the point of that statement and test was to prove that it's possible for players to complete it with the tools they have access to by default. No player has access to any "internal dps meter tools", so for all intents and purposes in this context it is safe to assume that they didn't use their own official damage meters. I don't doubt that they have them, because they have to test the game balance, but I don't believe they were used when they were testing to see if the content could be cleared without third party addons. That would defeat the entire purpose of the test and statement that it can be cleared without third party addons.
    It's designed to be cleared without third-party tools. It's tested to be cleared without third-party tools. But you're living in a fantasy world if you think testers never have any kind of data on their performance, especially since they use that performance to tune the dps checks for a worldwide audience.

    EDIT: btw you're putting a lot of words into my mouth. I never once said that damage meters were necessary to clear any fight (I even said something closer to the opposite a few posts ago), just that feedback is necessary to become a good player, and it's an incredibly good feedback tool. I don't think for a second the testers they selected for savage and ultimate dps checks never received any kind of hard data on their performance and learned their rotation with their intuition and feelings alone, like some of you seem to genuinely believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    It's designed to be cleared without third-party tools. It's tested to be cleared without third-party tools. But you're living in a fantasy world if you think testers never have any kind of data on their performance, especially since they use that performance to tune the dps checks for a worldwide audience.
    They probably have their own program to use if it isn't already baked into their testing build. It would be impossible to tune anything if they didn't know the numbers themselves, yeah.
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