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  1. #181
    Player Kazhar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICountFrom0 View Post
    Current evidance is that this is not true.
    Only group that claimed to clear it, cheated to do it.

    I've not seen anybody else come forward.

    100% of all clears required cheating.
    7 or 8 groups cleared it, multiples VODs have been released (including a SCH who showed all processes in his task manager mid-pull to prove no third-party tools were used). And Kindred cleared it very recently after streaming their prog from start to finish.
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  2. #182
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Darn, people starting to show their task managers?

    What will it be in next Ultimate? Taking pic of their gaming desk/console/controller/monitor? Lmao

    Wild.
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  3. #183
    Player Kazhar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Darn, people starting to show their task managers?

    What will it be in next Ultimate? Taking pic of their gaming desk/console/controller/monitor? Lmao

    Wild.
    After the _UNNAMED incident, people are very quick to accuse everyone of being a cheater so I believe it was needed to calm the witch hunt down. (Mind you, there are people who want to believe he faked his Task Manager...)
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    After the _UNNAMED incident, people are very quick to accuse everyone of being a cheater so I believe it was needed to calm the witch hunt down. (Mind you, there are people who want to believe he faked his Task Manager...)
    Can never win against those crowd... lol
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  5. #185
    Player Kazhar's Avatar
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    Anyway, Kindred cleared with all 8 members of their team streaming, most of them from day one, with thousands of eyes watching their entire prog from start to finish. So could the wild accusations that nobody ever cleared without cheating just stop now?
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    Give Yoshi-P a widdle baby pacifier.
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  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyMew View Post
    Give Yoshi-P a widdle baby pacifier.
    Why? Because he asked a valid question? Cause of all things I do understand where he comes from.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Anyway, Kindred cleared with all 8 members of their team streaming, most of them from day one, with thousands of eyes watching their entire prog from start to finish. So could the wild accusations that nobody ever cleared without cheating just stop now?
    It will never end now.

    Every raid group is gonna be scrutinized. Especially since cheating took place in DSR, TOP and interestingly enough also Panda Savage tiers as well. And it is now suspected that any other World First in the past had cheating as well.

    So unless every player streams their runs it's going to be met with criticism.

    Here is a informative video about the whole situation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5yYV4Ahetg

    It's a bad look for XIV these days.
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  9. #189
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    Ultimates exist to give savage players something to do between savages instead of unsubbing.

    As long as they fulfill this purpose with minimal resource investment (ultimates use recycled assets until last boss so they should not be that expensive) they will be made.
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    Last edited by Somnolence; 02-03-2023 at 09:56 PM.

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    That’s what I was trying to say yesterday, maybe badly. The more controversy that shows up with addons and people being caught using them (for world firsts) doesn’t give a good look to 14.

    In the interim they could add a condition of “you must stream” if you’re participating in world first races.

    But in the end I think they will be forced to technically deal with the addon situation.
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