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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupted View Post
    Long story with unnecessary details aside, being tricked & hurt by them along with the crowd they started to attract was enough for me to start keeping track of who they were and if they happen to show up on the same world again, I'd have a heads up about who they were.
    You don't need to track people on the lodestone if you just blacklist the people who offended you. Having the option to hide your own lodestone profile would protect you, not them.

    If an a-hole makes themselves disappear and they are blackilisted, that's a desirable outcome isn't it? They're gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    You don't need to track people on the lodestone if you just blacklist the people who offended you. Having the option to hide your own lodestone profile would protect you, not them.
    If they were in game friends even if Corrupted removed/BL them they can still see her in their friendlist so no matter if she changes name or hide lodestone they can still track her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    If they were in game friends even if Corrupted removed/BL them they can still see her in their friendlist so no matter if she changes name or hide lodestone they can still track her.
    There is going to be an update soon to make it so if you remove someone from your friendlist, you will be removed on the other person's list too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    There is going to be an update soon to make it so if you remove someone from your friendlist, you will be removed on the other person's list too.
    That's neat then

    Glad they're doing it.
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    Yeah I agree. This game's got a privacy issue in general, but the lodestone is like a stalker's wet dream. There are also third party tools that scrape data from the lodestone to give even more personal information like which linkshells they're in, whether or not they're likely to be married in game, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    There is going to be an update soon to make it so if you remove someone from your friendlist, you will be removed on the other person's list too.
    Do you have a source on this? I want to believe it. Took them a decade to implement, but I'd love to see it. Better late than never.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    Yeah I agree. This game's got a privacy issue in general, but the lodestone is like a stalker's wet dream. There are also third party tools that scrape data from the lodestone to give even more personal information like which linkshells they're in, whether or not they're likely to be married in game, etc.



    Do you have a source on this? I want to believe it. Took them a decade to implement, but I'd love to see it. Better late than never.
    Here you go: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ch_option_qol/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    You don't need to track people on the lodestone if you just blacklist the people who offended you. Having the option to hide your own lodestone profile would protect you, not them.

    If an a-hole makes themselves disappear and they are blackilisted, that's a desirable outcome isn't it? They're gone.
    Given what I said already, how else am I supposed to know who they are in order to blacklist if I don't keep track of them (and their frequent name changes)? I don't know how the blacklist handles characters on a different data center, but if it is anything like friendlist then yeah I would first need to wait for them to be in the same DC/world to blacklist them (which they currently aren't, and is the problem)

    Call me paranoid, but I did explain the situation and would not want to run it again so I either keep track of them or hope they somehow rework the way blacklisting works (which doesn't seem likely)
    It's good that they finally decided to add in (remove from fl = removed from theirs) here's hoping proper blocks come in the next 2 years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupted View Post
    Call me paranoid, but I did explain the situation and would not want to run it again so I either keep track of them or hope they somehow rework the way blacklisting works (which doesn't seem likely)
    It's good that they finally decided to add in (remove from fl = removed from theirs) here's hoping proper blocks come in the next 2 years!
    I understand that friendlist and blacklist don't function as they should, and I think they should be revamped. We should push for the option to privatize our lodestones, and also push for fixes and improvements to friendlists and blacklists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupted View Post
    Given what I said already, how else am I supposed to know who they are in order to blacklist if I don't keep track of them (and their frequent name changes)? I don't know how the blacklist handles characters on a different data center, but if it is anything like friendlist then yeah I would first need to wait for them to be in the same DC/world to blacklist them (which they currently aren't, and is the problem)
    Ideally, you should blacklist players as soon as they do something that makes you not want to talk to them again and you don't need the lodestone to do this. If they are on the same world region on another data center, I think you are able to travel to their current server and blacklist them*. It's a healthier alternative than tracking someone for years.

    *https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...25cb0c1c99b3c4

    Blacklist

    Players blacklisted from the other logical DC will remain on the list and no change will be made to the display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Ideally, you should blacklist players as soon as they do something that makes you not want to talk to them again and you don't need the lodestone to do this. If they are on the same world region on another data center, I think you are able to travel to their current server and blacklist them*. It's a healthier alternative than tracking someone for years.

    *https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...25cb0c1c99b3c4
    You can blacklist players, as long as you are not in a duty, or in a number of other instaced areas, and it will do nothing to keep them from seeing you or being able to mess with you, just sending messages or other requests to you.
    The blacklist system as it is needs work. I've seen plenty of disagreements in parties where it could be solved by blacklisting. You have to leave the instance, blacklist them, and then go back into the instance, which is a lot of work as well as in DF you are going to take a 30 minute ban on queueing.

    and this is all besides the fact that blaclisting is per character, so it can be side stepped by making a new character, and then going to a major city to harass the player. There's no way to currently deal with this since things are treated as a per-character basis instead of account wide. If someone wants to they can make as many alternate level 1 characters as they want to harass you, and you cannot do anything about it until each character sends a message
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    Last edited by VerdeLuck; 02-05-2023 at 03:29 AM.

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