Did SE threaten to not make ultimates anymore?

[Rolder50]

This may have been some emotion. I would feel similar if I was on a dev team and players just cheated through my content while I spent however many hours developing a raid for players who want "hard content", only to get slapped in the face afterwords.

Oh please it's not that dramatic.

[Ath192]

The biggest thing watching this thread is that some people think all add ons are bad, others that some are okay, others that no one should care. The problem is that add ons are unregulated, and so who gets to decide what is okay and isn’t? Nobody. As a consequence there will never be a consensus. Quite honestly the only recognizable authority in this matter would be the game publisher, who is against all of them. Whether people want to respect that or not is up to them. But the conversation here will forever go in circles because it’s pointless when everyone feels different about them.

[Meowdyj]

Oh please it's not that dramatic.

Actually it is. It takes over a year to design ultimate fights.

[Payadopa]

They don't endorse it, but they go out of their way to facilitate and then keep a close eye on it...

They seem to want them to happen, but they won't hand out any rewards outside of maybe a mention for it.

And then they get upset when people in a competitive environment they created try to get an advantage.

The solution cannot be 'I'm not looking so do do what you want'.
Cheaters will always cheat. You're not getting rid of them by turning around, you implement countermeasures.

[Semirhage]

"Should" people run programs that provide callouts? I wouldn't but I'm not being paid or laid if other people do it, so I don't give a crap if they are. But arguments about zoomhacks being used in the current Ultimate are a smokescreen for the usual suspects: the toxic casual portion of this community seethes and fumes and grinds their teeth over their bizarre obsession with high-end content they don't participate in themselves; this is the latest sputtering ragefest smugging over "CHEATING PARSERS" or whatever it is they've decided to make the centerpiece of this week's self-congratulatory "Here's how I'm actually better than/morally superior to anyone who does difficult content" ego trip. On any other medium, I'd likely agree with Yoshi's stance. Here? I'm trying to protect the community. If the toxic casual community's artificial ego gets any bigger they might explode.

[VelKallor]

consequence there will never be a consensus. Quite honestly the only recognizable authority in this matter would be the game designer, developer and publisher who is against all of them.

From the Lodestone, his stance is crystal clear:

I have come across posts from individuals that say things along the lines of, “Yoshida allows the use of third-party tools, so it’s fine to use them.” However, let me make it clear that I have never permitted the use of these tools. You may find information below from past posts and livestreams which outline my stance and policies surrounding third-party tools.

"Should" people run programs that provide callouts?

No.

the toxic casual portion of this community seethes and fumes and grinds their teeth over their bizarre obsession with high-end content they don't participate in themselves

Irrelevant. The DESIGNER of this game and all it contains has made it crystal, bluntly clear.

On any other medium, I'd likely agree with Yoshi's stance.

His stance has always been the same, whether or not you agree is your concern. Third party programs are not allowed, FULL STOP.

As the individual who is entrusted with full supervision over FFXIV

As I have mentioned previously, the terms of service for FINAL FANTASY XIV state that the use of third-party tools is strictly prohibited. This has always been the case and will continue to be so, and unless announced otherwise, there are no plans to enact any changes.

To which I agree 100%.

[TabrisOmbrelame]

At this point, I'm surprised that people didn't understand their lesson... Cheating was already a thing with DSR, maybe even before, and a drama about it happened too...

Only thing that crossed my mind after seeing the title of the article made by Naoki Yoshida :

Ha shit... Here we go again...

[VelKallor]

When I started FF 14 I picked Summoner , rolled with it as Shadowbringers SMN changes came into effect. My first run in this new expac, more or less my first year...I did okay and then I hit a brick wall.

Level 77 Feast of Lies

I had never hit a fight like this before, was on a huge learning curve and really was not understanding fully of the mechanics for this fight...I didnt know that he had his OWN enrage, I remember talking to friends, asking what the hell I had done wrong. None of them twigged that I was referring to that separate enrage until a mentor said casually "yeah he has his own enrage, when xcxx happens BURN HIM DOWN FAST".

That one solo scenario took me eleven tries. I was frustrated, angry, pissed because I knew if I didnt finish this fight, I was blocked, no progression, no Eulmore.

5 am that morning, 70% humidity in a Sydney summer, I couldnt sleep...also disappointed in myself as three friends had been waiting for me to emerge, I admitted I had failed AGAIN..they said dont worry you will get it. It was going to be 33 degrees C that day..yeah ugh...

I rode through Kholusia determined to finish this, each stage seemed easier somehow as my hands knew the drill....got to that last NPC, my hands were shaking, my feet trembling as I blasted him again and again and again, my hands hurt but I didnt care..I got the adds down in a hurry.....something inside me clicked, all of a sudden I understood my rotation, KNEW what I had to do..he started his spell and I let him have both barrels ( I later joked that had there been a kitchen sink I would have used THAT as well )...Bahamut came up, ENKINDLE HELL YEAH, my hand stabbed down, Bahamut reared , bathed that sanctimonious jerk in a massive blast of azure fire....he went down.

He. went. down.

It took a moment to sink in.....sat there for ten seconds, my hands shaking.The rest of the cutscene ran on , in a few minutes I stood in Eulmore, no one to welcome me, it didnt matter. Attuning to that crystal was above all the sweetest victory. . I was elated, satisfied, most of all a massive feeling of triumph.

Id earned it

Alone.

To this day I remember that fight struggling to learn, to see what my mistake was and how to fix it, how to beat this encounter. I did it unaided...I guess all of us have had those moments in one game or another when we think "what the hell do I do here, how do I beat this", every single gamer has had at least one of those times.

To me at least, having any addons or callouts would have taken away from that moment, it was me or him, one on one....to be honest..I would never have had it any other way.

[Ivtrix]

Yo I’m happy for you and all that but I think that’s a little bit different scenario than remembering positioning for Run: mi(sigma version) 12 minutes into the fight.

[DubiousDisk]

When I started FF 14 I picked Summoner , rolled with it as Shadowbringers SMN changes came into effect. My first run in this new expac, more or less my first year...I did okay and then I hit a brick wall.

Level 77 Feast of Lies

I had never hit a fight like this before, was on a huge learning curve and really was not understanding fully of the mechanics for this fight...I didnt know that he had his OWN enrage, I remember talking to friends, asking what the hell I had done wrong. None of them twigged that I was referring to that separate enrage until a mentor said casually "yeah he has his own enrage, when xcxx happens BURN HIM DOWN FAST".

That one solo scenario took me eleven tries. I was frustrated, angry, pissed because I knew if I didnt finish this fight, I was blocked, no progression, no Eulmore.

5 am that morning, 70% humidity in a Sydney summer, I couldnt sleep...also disappointed in myself as three friends had been waiting for me to emerge, I admitted I had failed AGAIN..they said dont worry you will get it. It was going to be 33 degrees C that day..yeah ugh...

I rode through Kholusia determined to finish this, each stage seemed easier somehow as my hands knew the drill....got to that last NPC, my hands were shaking, my feet trembling as I blasted him again and again and again, my hands hurt but I didnt care..I got the adds down in a hurry.....something inside me clicked, all of a sudden I understood my rotation, KNEW what I had to do..he started his spell and I let him have both barrels ( I later joked that had there been a kitchen sink I would have used THAT as well )...Bahamut came up, ENKINDLE HELL YEAH, my hand stabbed down, Bahamut reared , bathed that sanctimonious jerk in a massive blast of azure fire....he went down.

He. went. down.

It took a moment to sink in.....sat there for ten seconds, my hands shaking.The rest of the cutscene ran on , in a few minutes I stood in Eulmore, no one to welcome me, it didnt matter. Attuning to that crystal was above all the sweetest victory. . I was elated, satisfied, most of all a massive feeling of triumph.

Id earned it

Alone.

To this day I remember that fight struggling to learn, to see what my mistake was and how to fix it, how to beat this encounter. I did it unaided...I guess all of us have had those moments in one game or another when we think "what the hell do I do here, how do I beat this", every single gamer has had at least one of those times.

To me at least, having any addons or callouts would have taken away from that moment, it was me or him, one on one....to be honest..I would never have had it any other way.

You...realize you're comparing a year old MSQ instance to current tier Ultimate right?

Sweet story though, I guess.