Did SE threaten to not make ultimates anymore?

[Oizen]

Oh man they're looking for even more excuses to not add content lmao

[Takamorisan]

I think thats Yoshi frustrated. Why do ultimates if you guys plan to skip the way we intended to play it?

[DivineP]

I think thats Yoshi frustrated. Why do ultimates if you guys plan to skip the way we intended to play it?

Agreed. I bet it costs so many development hours.

[TaleraRistain]

I don't think this translates into a threat or him not making ultimates any more.

What I think he meant was "We work hard on this, for people whose express purpose is the challenge. If you use tools to remove the challenge and get an upper edge over your competitors, what was the point of us agreeing to make these fights? Who are we making it for?"

Because keep in mind, today it was 3rd Party tools. Back then, when UWU came out, people datamined the game to figure out mechanics.

And at that time, there were people who asked "Okay, so what was the point of making a harder fight designed to make you explore your options and figure things out if you're just going to circumvent it?"

This and also what a couple other posters said that the same people doing this also cry that things aren't hard enough and they want harder content. I would seriously consider if the development was worth the reward in this case, too.

[Leifei]

I think so too. I've noticed they are trying to change things per instance - the recent raid is one if them. I hope they really reinforce their TOS in the 7.0 revamp. The fights are so scripted.

Fights have been scripted in this game since the beginning of ARR. Learning the fights are basically like learning a dance, step by step. I doubt they'll change that now. As for the add-on discussion, I think people are fine to use them as long as said add-on isn't blatantly telling people where to stand, or what to do for mechanics. People that use add-ons like ACT and/or modifying the appearance of their character will be fine.

[Ivtrix]

Indeed. I'm sorry chick, ACT, Zoom, your pretty add-on thing in 3D have always been against the TOS.

Ppl hid the minor ones but now, sadly, they are all coming to light.

You do realize nothing is going to change right? I look forward to your postings in 2 years when we have ultimate drama again

[DivineP]

So it's fair the PC users can use add-ons and PlayStation users can't?

[ReynTime]

I doubt they will stop, because they also acknowledge players who do the fights fairly. It frustrated the team particularly hard because there was a massive backlash for the lack of 2 ultimates in Shadowbringers. I would not be surprised if they pushed Ultimates further down the priority list after this however.

[ForteNightshade]

Indeed. I'm sorry chick, ACT, Zoom, your pretty add-on thing in 3D have always been against the TOS.

Ppl hid the minor ones but now, sadly, they are all coming to light.

I never said they weren't? Just that most of them aren't ruining the game. A dress mod impacts literally nothing about your own gameplay experience yet you lumped it together with zoom hacking.

Are they against the ToS? Yes. I never said otherwise. FFlogs and ACT always have been and the dev team has done nothing about them except to say don't mention them publicly. That policy isn't going to change today, tomorrow or when 7.0 drops.

[DivineP]

I never said they weren't? Just that most of them aren't ruining the game. A dress mod impacts literally nothing about your own gameplay experience yet you lumped it together with zoom hacking.

Are they against the ToS? Yes. I never said otherwise. FFlogs and ACT always have been and the dev team has done nothing about them except to say don't mention them publicly. That policy isn't going to change today, tomorrow or when 7.0 drops.

Yoshis has just took his stance on ALL add-ons, he wants you to experience his game as published. He's said he reads stuff for feedback, so..