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  1. #21
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    Veleda Haze
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    Elitist housing system

    Coming from an MMO player of 20+ years who has played all the big titles and many smaller ones as well.

    You need to fix the housing system in this game.

    SE flames any elitist behavior in their game but then goes on to make an elitist housing market where only a handful of players are able to own a house.

    I know you like to have wards and neighborhoods which you can still keep for the elitist players.

    BUT you NEED to add some instanced housing options for the rest of the players.

    ALL players should be able to have a property to build on and decorate as they see fit. This is a MAJOR issue in an MMO to limit a persons artistic expression.

    Housing and glams is the real endgame and the carrot on the stick for many players to keep playing the game...

    I lost my housing bid and do not see another opportunity anytime in the future to be able to purchase a house since I am told you rarely ever add houses to the game.

    I do not see myself playing this game for very long with no house and no carrot on the stick to motivate me to keep playing this game.

    The housing system in FF14 is already very very basic and simple. ESO had the best housing system. Even Lost Ark's mobile style housing system was superior the one SE is using.

    The best thing to do moving forward is to convert all wards to FC only and allow each player to purchase an instanced small med or large depending on their budget.

    EVERY player should have a house not just a handful of elite players.
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  2. #22
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    Teaudix Suidoreux
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    At any rate, housing is a game feature, not something special that’s supposed to be reserved for the lucky few. You use the example of Ultimates, but those rewards are something earned by skill, not random chance, so of course they shouldn’t be given away. By the same token though, you aren’t locked out from participating in an Ultimate by having a random number choose whether or not you can run it.
    And Square is still seeing appartments as a part of housing. So from their perspective no one is excluded.

    Ah Taxes where the poor can even more sniff at the rich persons soles and what they cant accomplish. Not enough Gil for more then one ticket for your FC? Too bad. The other FC you are bidding against had twentyfold of the Gil available for multiple bids.

    You cant pay the taxes for your Pixels? Too bad. Get out of your home and make room for the Rockefellers.

    Cant wait for the threads of "cant sustain my ingame home due to taxes". Watch what you crave for. Same as with the Lottery.
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  3. #23
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    Miyu Bubbles
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Happy View Post
    Coming from an MMO player of 20+ years who has played all the big titles and many smaller ones as well.

    You need to fix the housing system in this game.

    SE flames any elitist behavior in their game but then goes on to make an elitist housing market where only a handful of players are able to own a house.

    I know you like to have wards and neighborhoods which you can still keep for the elitist players.

    BUT you NEED to add some instanced housing options for the rest of the players.

    ALL players should be able to have a property to build on and decorate as they see fit. This is a MAJOR issue in an MMO to limit a persons artistic expression.

    Housing and glams is the real endgame and the carrot on the stick for many players to keep playing the game...

    I lost my housing bid and do not see another opportunity anytime in the future to be able to purchase a house since I am told you rarely ever add houses to the game.

    I do not see myself playing this game for very long with no house and no carrot on the stick to motivate me to keep playing this game.

    The housing system in FF14 is already very very basic and simple. ESO had the best housing system. Even Lost Ark's mobile style housing system was superior the one SE is using.

    The best thing to do moving forward is to convert all wards to FC only and allow each player to purchase an instanced small med or large depending on their budget.

    EVERY player should have a house not just a handful of elite players.
    Changing all wards to FC and giving instanced homes to players would be a great solution and it should have been SE's choice from the start(instead of opening houses to personal buyers), but you can bet people would still not be satisfied with that.
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  4. #24
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    Battler Ushiromiya
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Happy View Post
    EVERY player should have a house not just a handful of elite players.
    I disagree, houses should remain for only the best players. It's a mark of prestige for your dedication to the game, plus you can get an apartment. If you don't want the apartment, then the reason you want a house is the scarcity alone.
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  5. #25
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    Oldschoolegamer38's Avatar
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    Fultorn Kilnson
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    Exodus
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    0.1 cents have been deposited into your sub farming account!
    I agree another mouth breather that pretends to play but doesn't
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    So fresh it'll smack yo momma!!!

  6. #26
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    Smoosh Icus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    Finally with instanced - its just instant gratification. I see my struggle to relo to a med like any other challenge - I will earn it through the means provided. Its like; why can't we just do ultimates unsynced? Some folks would love the special plates/titles/weapon skins?
    It wouldnt be instant gratification at all. You've spent time to earn the gil to buy the property, you spent time to grind, time which will never come back to you. Id rather be able to get the item I spent all my time building for than to be denied by an RNG system time and time again for over a year. At this point getting the actual item will feel more of a frustrational relief, Which is really not a good system at all in the slightest.

    By no means is this a challenge at all, you can not earn a random house. You win one through sheer luck of an RNG system. This system needs to change.

    Also to counter act the statement of "Anything given has no value", you bought the house with gil earnt, while also linking above, you can not earn something which is random. I have been sitting on 63m for quite a while now, with nothing to spend on, this housing system would change that. you'd see crafters finally having new people to sell to, more people changing their properties trying out new designs, which in turn would make a more beneficial system for all rather than the one showboater with a mansion and a namazu fire effigy on the front left for 3 years without anything added or changed to it.

    The option to instance should... actually must be an option at this point. When you've lost for a year straight on every single lotto this screams something needs to change.
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  7. #27
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    Miyu Bubbles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya View Post
    I disagree, houses should remain for only the best players. It's a mark of prestige for your dedication to the game, plus you can get an apartment. If you don't want the apartment, then the reason you want a house is the scarcity alone.
    This I disagree, since apartments are really way too limited in comparison to a house. Now, if they refuse a small in Goblet or Empyreum(have seen people whining about how they won't accept a home there ingame today), then I agree that the only reason they want a house is scarcity.
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  8. #28
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    Fultorn Kilnson
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya View Post
    I disagree, houses should remain for only the best players. It's a mark of prestige for your dedication to the game, plus you can get an apartment. If you don't want the apartment, then the reason you want a house is the scarcity alone.
    that logic is flawed as apartments are limited as well...
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    So fresh it'll smack yo momma!!!

  9. #29
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    Fultorn Kilnson
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    Exodus
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    honestly, If I had a small plot I would be there almost all the time as just hanging around the main cities is rather cringe alot of the time and the peace and quiet of living in a housing ward is more my pace...but the bigger issue is the plot hoppers who plot hop all the time a 1-year lockout should be put in place honestly.
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  10. #30
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    Rice Cake
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    I have a house already and would not feel like the effort I put forward camping aetheryte for many months checking for houses would be diminished by others having instanced housing. I had to compete with house flippers on my congested server back then and went small > small > medium > large. It was annoying and housing savages with the crashes were also terrible. Others having it easier? Good.

    Just because I no-lifed for houses doesn't mean others should be treated differently because they didn't. Instanced housing should have been a thing for a while now and they should have no difference to the wards. I also would be fine with subs working in them because those items are hard to get because leveling subs is a massive headache. I could never stomach it, too lazy.
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