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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    And what about people who have lives that make them incapable of waking up at 5AM on patch day when new plots are added? They just don't get a chance at having a house?

    Contrary to your own experience, some people do have IRL lives and obligations that may prohibit them from being able to dedicate all of their time to FFXIV.
    Exactly the problem, its never good enough for people, there's always someone that it might not work for, maybe I'll go to the bathroom when the house comes up for sale ? Oh no, anyways ! Maybe I'll be with my mom when the house comes up, or maybe at work, or maybe just out grocery shopping, does the world need to stop spinning because I'm doing something else with my life ? Does a virtual game need to be impacted by what I decide to do with my life ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Exactly the problem, its never good enough for people, there's always someone that it might not work for, maybe I'll go to the bathroom when the house comes up for sale ? Oh no, anyways ! Maybe I'll be with my mom when the house comes up, or maybe at work, or maybe just out grocery shopping, does the world need to stop spinning because I'm doing something else with my life ? Does a virtual game need to be impacted by what I decide to do with my life ?
    So what is the problem with the lottery system that makes it unfair? It's literally RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    So what is the problem with the lottery system that makes it unfair? It's literally RNG.
    And the old system wasnt RNG, when a house opened, it opened, and you could just run up to the plot and claim it. How is that not better ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    And the old system wasnt RNG, when a house opened, it opened, and you could just run up to the plot and claim it. How is that not better ?
    Because the other system added the element of IRL complications. With the current system it is literally *only* a matter of RNG and gil. Everyone is on the same playing field so long as they have the gil to back it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    So what is the problem with the lottery system that makes it unfair? It's literally RNG.
    Because it rng is why I don't like the new system. I also didn't like the older one also but at least I didn't feel bad bc a number generator decided that Im not lucky enough to win. Even when I bid on a house with 1 to 3 bidders I still end up losing bc I just have bad luck. An rng or luck system sucks for a limited resource. That is why most don't like the lottery bc after each lost the odds only go down since there are fewer and fewer houses to bid on esp on high-pop servers like mine. I will be lucky to find any meds in the next cycle now. So now I have to wait until 7.0 for them to add more wards. If they added wards on every major patch it wouldn't be so bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    Because it rng is why I don't like the new system. I also didn't like the older one also but at least I didn't feel bad bc a number generator decided that Im not lucky enough to win. Even when I bid on a house with 1 to 3 bidders I still end up losing bc I just have bad luck. An rng or luck system sucks for a limited resource. That is why most don't like the lottery bc after each lost the odds only go down since there are fewer and fewer houses to bid on esp on high-pop servers like mine. I will be lucky to find any meds in the next cycle now. So now I have to wait until 7.0 for them to add more wards. If they added wards on every major patch it wouldn't be so bad.
    This comment doesn't make sense. So you dont like the new system because RNG doesnt give it to you, but it was okay with the old system when...RNG didn't give it to you? The old system *also* had ways AROUND the RNG. Like I said in another comment, people could relocate their house and it would override the RNG.

    Also you'd actually lose TIME. You could click on a sign for HOURS and lose. That's a lot worse of a feeling than "oh I spent 3 minutes buying my lottery ticket and I lost".
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    This comment doesn't make sense. So you dont like the new system because RNG doesnt give it to you, but it was okay with the old system when...RNG didn't give it to you? The old system *also* had ways AROUND the RNG. Like I said in another comment, people could relocate their house and it would override the RNG.

    Also you'd actually lose TIME. You could click on a sign for HOURS and lose. That's a lot worse of a feeling than "oh I spent 3 minutes buying my lottery ticket and I lost".
    I think you are misunderstanding what first come first serve is

    FCFS was basically, X house opens, you go to the placard and you IMMEDIATELY purchase the house, later on it was changed to a wait timer that was RNG, but the original iteration wasnt RNG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I think you are misunderstanding what first come first serve is

    FCFS was basically, X house opens, you go to the placard and you IMMEDIATELY purchase the house, later on it was changed to a wait timer that was RNG, but the original iteration wasnt RNG
    No, I understand what it is. Nothing about my comment suggests that I don't. Me and that other user (not you, so please don't interject) were discussing the old system vs. the new one. Neither of which is FCFS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    No, I understand what it is. Nothing about my comment suggests that I don't. Me and that other user (not you, so please don't interject) were discussing the old system vs. the new one. Neither of which is FCFS.
    I wasnt meant to quote the post actually, sorry about that, was meant as a comment in general to you and not as a response to the post
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    This comment doesn't make sense. So you dont like the new system because RNG doesnt give it to you, but it was okay with the old system when...RNG didn't give it to you? The old system *also* had ways AROUND the RNG. Like I said in another comment, people could relocate their house and it would override the RNG.

    Also you'd actually lose TIME. You could click on a sign for HOURS and lose. That's a lot worse of a feeling than "oh I spent 3 minutes buying my lottery ticket and I lost".
    I said I didn't like either system as a whole... But yes I like the old system bc I could relocate easier. Back then it was all about getting that first house no matter where it was and then waiting for a larger or better plot to open. It felt like an upgrade system to me and I enjoy that part. I get why ppl didn't like it but it was nice when you finally saw a plot you been really wanted for years open up and you were able to grab it. Now you just have to settle even if it's in an area you can't stand. As someone who HATES the goblet and wants out so damn badly bc I don't even feel like making my house look nice anymore for myself due to my surroundings.

    Overall I hate all the systems they put in bc none of them fixed the main issues with housing and that is the amount of housing that is available. All the money and resources that went into making these bandaid systems could have been used to make an IH system where everyone could have a house of the size they chose and in the area they chose. You and others can settle for a better but still bad system all you want but I'm not. I'm going to continue to complain about the ward system and the lottery till one day the dev come to their senses and makes an IH system. I demand better for a game I pay a monthly sub for and I won't just settle for anything less...
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